From mick at flossmanuals.net Wed Jul 1 00:34:36 2015 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 08:34:36 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Ardour3 manual update and question In-Reply-To: <5592E5EB.6090207@andrecastro.info> References: <54956746.9000800@flossmanuals.net> <549AA1D1.40607@flossmanuals.net> <55917CAA.2040802@flossmanuals.net> <5591B82C.2050901@flossmanuals.net> <5592E5EB.6090207@andrecastro.info> Message-ID: <5593980C.8080206@flossmanuals.net> On 30/06/15 19:54, Andr3 Castr0 wrote: > For pandoc to export to epub(2 and 3) all the source text files must > be assembled onto one single file. But it is simple a concatenation. > Something like: $ for i in folder/*.md; do cat $i >> book.md; done > If you have footnotes or metadata in each markdown, scripts have to > reorganize them in new file, but it is also simple. Thanks for this info Andre, it looks like pandoc would need the md files to be in alphabetical order, so prefixing them 01_, 02_ would work > I have assembled a series of simple scripts, triggered by a makefile, > to perform this (and other) conversion. > Fell welcome to use > https://gitlab.com/DigitalPublishingToolkit/Hybrid-Publishing-Resources/tree/master Thanks for sharing that it looks like a great project. Did you share this with the BookType developers at all yet, as it is in python and I think there are some things there that might be of interest in terms of epub generation? nice one Mick -- Mick Chesterman - mick at flossmanuals.net mickfuzz [skype] @onefuzzyduck [twitter] http://clearerchannel.org - training and freelance work http://flossmanuals.net - Free Manuals for Free Software From andre at andrecastro.info Wed Jul 1 00:41:02 2015 From: andre at andrecastro.info (Andr3 Castr0) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 09:41:02 +0200 Subject: [FM Discuss] Ardour3 manual update and question In-Reply-To: <5593980C.8080206@flossmanuals.net> References: <54956746.9000800@flossmanuals.net> <549AA1D1.40607@flossmanuals.net> <55917CAA.2040802@flossmanuals.net> <5591B82C.2050901@flossmanuals.net> <5592E5EB.6090207@andrecastro.info> <5593980C.8080206@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <5593998E.5050803@andrecastro.info> On 07/01/2015 09:34 AM, Mick FM wrote: > > On 30/06/15 19:54, Andr3 Castr0 wrote: >> For pandoc to export to epub(2 and 3) all the source text files must >> be assembled onto one single file. But it is simple a concatenation. >> Something like: $ for i in folder/*.md; do cat $i >> book.md; done >> If you have footnotes or metadata in each markdown, scripts have to >> reorganize them in new file, but it is also simple. > Thanks for this info Andre, it looks like pandoc would need the md files > to be in alphabetical order, so prefixing them 01_, 02_ would work >> I have assembled a series of simple scripts, triggered by a makefile, >> to perform this (and other) conversion. >> Fell welcome to use >> https://gitlab.com/DigitalPublishingToolkit/Hybrid-Publishing-Resources/tree/master > Thanks for sharing that it looks like a great project. Did you share > this with the BookType developers at all yet, as it is in python and I > think there are some things there that might be of interest in terms of > epub generation? Thanks. Nop , so far I didn't. I'll do that. But in any case they are just a collection of simple scripts, to help in some pandoc conversions. But it is good to know they might be helpful for other projects. cheers a > > nice one > Mick > From jh at joachimheintz.de Wed Jul 1 09:30:07 2015 From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 18:30:07 +0200 Subject: [FM Discuss] Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test migration In-Reply-To: <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com> <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <5594158F.3030007@joachimheintz.de> hi mick - thanks for the excellent description. all worked like a charm, and took only some minutes. i checked some chapters, and all looks fine. what now? best - joachim Am 29.06.2015 um 09:57 schrieb Mick FM: > > > On 26/06/15 10:43, Anna F J Morris wrote: >> On 25/06/15 16:00, Mick FM wrote: >>> Email if you are up for doing this and I'll let you know more next week. >> sure, I can spare an hour or two on the phpList manual, I can also look >> at some of the others we wrote mick if that helps (maybe the video >> editing one, I know that best) >> > > Thanks if you volunteered to do a migration test. Here are the steps. > > * Go here - http://floss.booktype.pro/ > * Create an account > * Click on My Dashboard > My Books > Import Book > * Select Import Type: Copy or import Booktype book > * Enter the URL of the book you want to migrate from > booki.flossmanuals.net - ie http://booki.flossmanuals.net/owncloud > (see image attached) > * Then click Import > * Then check if the content has been migrated ok and report back any > errors or omissions (especially check the images) > > > Many Thanks! > Mick > > > -- > Mick Chesterman -mick at flossmanuals.net > mickfuzz [skype] > @onefuzzyduck [twitter] > > http://clearerchannel.org - training and freelance work > http://flossmanuals.net - Free Manuals for Free Software > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net > From mick at flossmanuals.net Wed Jul 1 10:23:09 2015 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 18:23:09 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test migration In-Reply-To: <5594158F.3030007@joachimheintz.de> References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com> <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> <5594158F.3030007@joachimheintz.de> Message-ID: <559421FD.5020308@flossmanuals.net> On 01/07/15 17:30, joachim heintz wrote: > hi mick - > > thanks for the excellent description. all worked like a charm, and > took only some minutes. i checked some chapters, and all looks fine. > > what now? Hi there, Thanks for doing this. I've had some minor issues moving a couple of books across. But only small ones that are easily resolvable. Your csound manual all seems good doesn't it? What now? Well in the short term I suggest re-routing readers from flossmanuals.net to the page here http://floss.booktype.pro/csound/preface/ Is it ok if I set that up on the server? And here's the long story for what now! So the overall challenge of FLOSS Manuals over the last few years has been maintaining a complex technical and organisational structure. When we last met up in Amsterdam we looked at the French FLOSS Manuals group as a good model for the International community. It's more focused and more light-weight. Overall plan looks like this. Legally, disband the FLOSS Manuals Foundation in NL (this is now underway after a board meeting this week), and set up a CiC in the UK for the English language site and community. The idea is to lower administrative costs and time, not have permanent staff and work on a project by project basis. Technically, we need to lower the technical overhead of the project. It's not ideal to have 4 servers doing different things running experimental but outdated code bases. Jo P has been doing a *great* job patching things up but we need to move on. There are 2 main parts of the site. The WRITE section currently at http://booki.flossmanuals.net we'll ask SourceFabric to maintain. This is currently at http://floss.booktype.pro but we'll ask them to host it at http://write.flossmanuals.net. We'll create an archive of the current WRITE site so that manuals can be available if they are needed to be revived. The READ section will stay on a server that Greenhost.nl has kindly offered to sponsor. The php codebase will be replaced with a Django one. We are nearly there with that and starting to work on the html templates. I'm doing this work at the moment as a volunteer and looking to set up some paying projects after the summer when then period of migration is done. In the coming months, they'll be plenty of opportunities for volunteer contributions either small or big to help make this happen. It's always been a good response to call outs for help on this list and that is one of the reasons that I'm so keen to make sure this project keeps going. nice one Mick From helen at creative-catalyst.com Wed Jul 1 14:09:23 2015 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (helen varley jamieson) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 23:09:23 +0200 Subject: [FM Discuss] Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test migration In-Reply-To: <559421FD.5020308@flossmanuals.net> References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com> <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> <5594158F.3030007@joachimheintz.de> <559421FD.5020308@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <55945703.8050802@creative-catalyst.com> thanks for this update, mick; i can imagine there has been a lot of discussion & negotiation behind the scenes that has led to working out this new plan, & it sounds all positive & good for a more streamlined way to continue. thanks mick & whoever else has been involved in finding solutions :) h : ) On 1/07/15 7:23 09PM, Mick FM wrote: > > On 01/07/15 17:30, joachim heintz wrote: >> hi mick - >> >> thanks for the excellent description. all worked like a charm, and >> took only some minutes. i checked some chapters, and all looks fine. >> >> what now? > Hi there, > > Thanks for doing this. I've had some minor issues moving a couple of > books across. But only small ones that are easily resolvable. Your > csound manual all seems good doesn't it? > > What now? Well in the short term I suggest re-routing readers from > flossmanuals.net to the page here > http://floss.booktype.pro/csound/preface/ > Is it ok if I set that up on the server? > > And here's the long story for what now! So the overall challenge of > FLOSS Manuals over the last few years has been maintaining a complex > technical and organisational structure. > > When we last met up in Amsterdam we looked at the French FLOSS Manuals > group as a good model for the International community. It's more focused > and more light-weight. > > Overall plan looks like this. Legally, disband the FLOSS Manuals > Foundation in NL (this is now underway after a board meeting this week), > and set up a CiC in the UK for the English language site and community. > The idea is to lower administrative costs and time, not have permanent > staff and work on a project by project basis. > > Technically, we need to lower the technical overhead of the project. > It's not ideal to have 4 servers doing different things running > experimental but outdated code bases. Jo P has been doing a *great* job > patching things up but we need to move on. > > There are 2 main parts of the site. The WRITE section currently at > http://booki.flossmanuals.net we'll ask SourceFabric to maintain. This > is currently at http://floss.booktype.pro but we'll ask them to host it > at http://write.flossmanuals.net. We'll create an archive of the current > WRITE site so that manuals can be available if they are needed to be > revived. > > The READ section will stay on a server that Greenhost.nl has kindly > offered to sponsor. The php codebase will be replaced with a Django one. > We are nearly there with that and starting to work on the html templates. > > I'm doing this work at the moment as a volunteer and looking to set up > some paying projects after the summer when then period of migration is > done. > > In the coming months, they'll be plenty of opportunities for volunteer > contributions either small or big to help make this happen. It's always > been a good response to call outs for help on this list and that is one > of the reasons that I'm so keen to make sure this project keeps going. > > nice one > Mick > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net > -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz Magdalena M?nchen - Erstes Treffen: 5-7 June 2015 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gpittman at iglou.com Wed Jul 1 17:25:23 2015 From: gpittman at iglou.com (Gregory Pittman) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 20:25:23 -0400 Subject: [FM Discuss] my article at opensource.com Message-ID: <559484F3.1000504@iglou.com> http://opensource.com/business/15/7/five-tips-translating-documentation Greg From anna at phplist.com Thu Jul 2 01:39:49 2015 From: anna at phplist.com (Anna F J Morris) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 09:39:49 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] my article at opensource.com In-Reply-To: <559484F3.1000504@iglou.com> References: <559484F3.1000504@iglou.com> Message-ID: <5594F8D5.3070406@phplist.com> On 02/07/15 01:25, Gregory Pittman wrote: > http://opensource.com/business/15/7/five-tips-translating-documentation cool! Tweeted about it! :) a x > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net -- Share the phpList love! Twitter: @phpList Facebook: facebook.com/phpList From jh at joachimheintz.de Thu Jul 2 06:45:24 2015 From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:45:24 +0200 Subject: [FM Discuss] Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test migration In-Reply-To: <559421FD.5020308@flossmanuals.net> References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com> <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> <5594158F.3030007@joachimheintz.de> <559421FD.5020308@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <55954074.4020601@joachimheintz.de> hi mick - yes, please re-route readers to this site. when this is done, i will announce the new release. i like the new design in general, only that i miss the light-red background of the code examples. but if it is complicated to get this back, i can live. thanks also for the detailed information about the state of floss manuals. this is good to know. i appreciate not only the time you dedicate for this, but also for this kind of communication. cheers - joachim Am 01.07.2015 um 19:23 schrieb Mick FM: > > > On 01/07/15 17:30, joachim heintz wrote: >> hi mick - >> >> thanks for the excellent description. all worked like a charm, and >> took only some minutes. i checked some chapters, and all looks fine. >> >> what now? > > Hi there, > > Thanks for doing this. I've had some minor issues moving a couple of > books across. But only small ones that are easily resolvable. Your > csound manual all seems good doesn't it? > > What now? Well in the short term I suggest re-routing readers from > flossmanuals.net to the page here > http://floss.booktype.pro/csound/preface/ > Is it ok if I set that up on the server? > > And here's the long story for what now! So the overall challenge of > FLOSS Manuals over the last few years has been maintaining a complex > technical and organisational structure. > > When we last met up in Amsterdam we looked at the French FLOSS Manuals > group as a good model for the International community. It's more focused > and more light-weight. > > Overall plan looks like this. Legally, disband the FLOSS Manuals > Foundation in NL (this is now underway after a board meeting this week), > and set up a CiC in the UK for the English language site and community. > The idea is to lower administrative costs and time, not have permanent > staff and work on a project by project basis. > > Technically, we need to lower the technical overhead of the project. > It's not ideal to have 4 servers doing different things running > experimental but outdated code bases. Jo P has been doing a *great* job > patching things up but we need to move on. > > There are 2 main parts of the site. The WRITE section currently at > http://booki.flossmanuals.net we'll ask SourceFabric to maintain. This > is currently at http://floss.booktype.pro but we'll ask them to host it > at http://write.flossmanuals.net. We'll create an archive of the current > WRITE site so that manuals can be available if they are needed to be > revived. > > The READ section will stay on a server that Greenhost.nl has kindly > offered to sponsor. The php codebase will be replaced with a Django one. > We are nearly there with that and starting to work on the html templates. > > I'm doing this work at the moment as a volunteer and looking to set up > some paying projects after the summer when then period of migration is > done. > > In the coming months, they'll be plenty of opportunities for volunteer > contributions either small or big to help make this happen. It's always > been a good response to call outs for help on this list and that is one > of the reasons that I'm so keen to make sure this project keeps going. > > nice one > Mick > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net > From mark at aktivix.org Sat Jul 4 04:02:34 2015 From: mark at aktivix.org (mark) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:02:34 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test migration In-Reply-To: <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com> <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <5597BD4A.9020801@aktivix.org> I was just going to have a try with puredata but hit a snag Mick FM: > Thanks if you volunteered to do a migration test. Here are the steps. > > * Go here - http://floss.booktype.pro/ > * Create an account > * Click on My Dashboard > My Books > Import Book > * Select Import Type: Copy or import Booktype book > * Enter the URL of the book you want to migrate from > booki.flossmanuals.net - ie http://booki.flossmanuals.net/owncloud > (see image attached) I can't reach that server (i.e. can't even ping it). Has it fallen over? > * Then click Import > * Then check if the content has been migrated ok and report back any > errors or omissions (especially check the images) > > > Many Thanks! > Mick Thanks for the method, Mark From mick at flossmanuals.net Sat Jul 4 06:48:29 2015 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 14:48:29 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test migration In-Reply-To: <5597BD4A.9020801@aktivix.org> References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com> <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> <5597BD4A.9020801@aktivix.org> Message-ID: <5597E42D.7000105@flossmanuals.net> On 04/07/15 12:02, mark wrote: > I can't reach that server (i.e. can't even ping it). Has it fallen over? > Thanks for the heads up Mark, I've filed a ticket with our providers. Mick -- Mick Chesterman - mick at flossmanuals.net mickfuzz [skype] @onefuzzyduck [twitter] http://clearerchannel.org - training and freelance work http://flossmanuals.net - Free Manuals for Free Software From mick at flossmanuals.net Sat Jul 4 08:25:47 2015 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 16:25:47 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Fwd: Re: [Ticket#10461793] vps564.greenhost.nl - unreachable In-Reply-To: <1436018314.49507.9098978844.461674.17@helpdesk.greenhost.nl> References: <1436018314.49507.9098978844.461674.17@helpdesk.greenhost.nl> Message-ID: <5597FAFB.8010100@flossmanuals.net> sorted now! Thanks again Mark for letting us know. Mick -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Ticket#10461793] vps564.greenhost.nl - unreachable Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:58:35 +0200 From: Greenhost Helpdesk Organisation: Greenhost To: mick at flossmanuals.net Dear Mick, We had a malfunction with one of our storage servers which also affected some of the VPSes. At the moment your VPS is online again as well as the site booki.flossmanuals.net. For more information about this outage see https://greenhost.net/status/outage-on-storage-server-mail-websites-en-vpses-affected/ Met vriendelijke groet, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hi there, I've made the server changes so the READ site should point to floss.booktype.pro now. For a short term - you could include something like the following html in the preface? I can help you export the files and upload them if you like. nice one Mick
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> > > > *Read the > Online Version * > *Read the > EPUB Version * > *Read the > PDF Version > * > *Read in > Open Office > * > > *Order some > Printed copies > * > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net > From mark at aktivix.org Sun Jul 5 05:51:32 2015 From: mark at aktivix.org (mark) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:51:32 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] {Spam?} Re: Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test migration In-Reply-To: <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com> <5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <55992854.8090709@aktivix.org> Mick FM: > * Then check if the content has been migrated ok and report back any > errors or omissions (especially check the images) OK! I'm working my way through the puredata book slowly, because it's a delight to revisit it. I've finished the first 3 sections and I have a few things to report. There's something strange going on in the window title - where did "WhatIsRGP" come from? https://www.anony.ws/image/DyS8 In booktype.pro, when I try to "view draft" I get this error: "I don't know what to do! There is more then one chapter named - "introduction". I am not sure which one to show." I thought perhaps this was because there was a section with the same name as the first chapter, but changing its name made no difference. Therefore the rest of these observations are from edit > view. The changed style of h2 in the css has reduced padding-top from 15px to 0px which makes preceding paragraphs appear too close to the following h2 title, which seems undesirable to me: good: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySm bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySw good: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySu bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySf 
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bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySR

bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySs


That's all so far. Thanks again to all the authors, I'm really enjoying
the book again.

Cheers,
Mark

From aerkalov at gmail.com  Tue Jul  7 03:32:03 2015
From: aerkalov at gmail.com (Aleksandar Erkalovic)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:32:03 +0200
Subject: [FM Discuss] {Spam?} Re: Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to
 test migration
In-Reply-To: <55992854.8090709@aktivix.org>
References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net> <558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com>
	<5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net> <55992854.8090709@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 2:51 PM, mark  wrote:

> In booktype.pro, when I try to "view draft" I get this error: "I don't
> know what to do! There is more then one chapter named - "introduction".
> I am not sure which one to show." I thought perhaps this was because
> there was a section with the same name as the first chapter, but
> changing its name made no difference. Therefore the rest of these
> observations are from edit > view.
>
>

Hi Mark,

yes, you have 3 chapters called "introduction" and this is why it happened.
This should be fixed now. Very creatively they are called: introduction,
introduction1 and  introduction2.


Aco


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From mick at flossmanuals.net  Tue Jul  7 03:55:34 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 11:55:34 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>
	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>
Message-ID: <559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>



On 04/07/15 23:30, joachim heintz wrote:
> allright --  i have included this.  can you have a look and if
> possible export / upload the files?  or show me how to do?
>
The easiest way would be to link to these api calls.

http://objavi.booktype.pro/?book=csound&server=floss.booktype.pro&mode=epub
http://objavi.booktype.pro/?book=csound&server=floss.booktype.pro&mode=openoffice
http://objavi.booktype.pro/?book=csound&server=floss.booktype.pro&mode=web

However as that would put quite a load on the objavi server - that is
not the best thing to do.

There is also a way inside the user interface too.


Are those ready to go? If so I'll download them to the flossmanuals
server so you can link there.

nice one
Mick

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From mick at flossmanuals.net  Tue Jul  7 05:25:30 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:25:30 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] Volunteer Manual maintainers wanted to test
 migration
In-Reply-To: <55992854.8090709@aktivix.org>
References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net>
	<558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com>	<5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net>
	<55992854.8090709@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: <559BC53A.50208@flossmanuals.net>



On 05/07/15 13:51, mark wrote:
> The changed style of h2 in the css has reduced padding-top from 15px to
> 0px which makes preceding paragraphs appear too close to the following
> h2 title, which seems undesirable to me:
>
> good: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySm
> bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySw
>
> good: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySu
> bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySf
>
>
> 
 doesn't wrap
>
> good: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySh
> bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySR
>
> bad: https://www.anony.ws/image/DySs
>
>
> That's all so far. Thanks again to all the authors, I'm really enjoying
> the book again.

Hi Mark,

Thanks loads for going through this with such detail. I'm glad you are
enjoying the book.
Using the screen shots really works!

Aco beat me to it for the chapter names (thanks Aco). This is something
that can be sorted relatively easily so that's good.

Joachim also noticed that the 
 tags weren't code highlighted. So
that is definitely some good feedback.

It looks like it is a good idea to request to SF that we provide a css
file to alter some of these issues and provide a bit of a more FM themed
view to the write area. I'll get back to the list when I find out more
about this.

Thanks again Mark keep us posted if you find anything more.

nice one
Mick

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From jh at joachimheintz.de  Tue Jul  7 13:15:28 2015
From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz)
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 22:15:28 +0200
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>
	<559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>
Message-ID: <559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>

hi mick -

i guess they are fine.  when you can download and tell me the links, i 
can put them in.

i will be off in some days; would be great to see it published before.

best -
	joachim




Am 07.07.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Mick FM:
>
>
> On 04/07/15 23:30, joachim heintz wrote:
>> allright --  i have included this.  can you have a look and if
>> possible export / upload the files?  or show me how to do?
>>
> The easiest way would be to link to these api calls.
>
> http://objavi.booktype.pro/?book=csound&server=floss.booktype.pro&mode=epub
> http://objavi.booktype.pro/?book=csound&server=floss.booktype.pro&mode=openoffice
> http://objavi.booktype.pro/?book=csound&server=floss.booktype.pro&mode=web
>
> However as that would put quite a load on the objavi server - that is
> not the best thing to do.
>
> There is also a way inside the user interface too.
>
>
> Are those ready to go? If so I'll download them to the flossmanuals
> server so you can link there.
>
> nice one
> Mick
>

From mick at flossmanuals.net  Wed Jul  8 01:35:49 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 09:35:49 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>	<559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>
	<559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>
Message-ID: <559CE0E5.2080206@flossmanuals.net>



On 07/07/15 21:15, joachim heintz wrote:
> hi mick -
>
> i guess they are fine.  when you can download and tell me the links, i
> can put them in.
>
> i will be off in some days; would be great to see it published before.

No worries.

For convenience, i've put them here

http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/files/csound.pdf
http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/files/csound.odt
http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/files/csound.epub

nice one
Mick

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From jh at joachimheintz.de  Wed Jul  8 07:48:33 2015
From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:48:33 +0200
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <559CE0E5.2080206@flossmanuals.net>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>	<559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>	<559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>
	<559CE0E5.2080206@flossmanuals.net>
Message-ID: <559D3841.70709@joachimheintz.de>

hi there -

thanks; i came across some issues.

the pdf is empty (0 bytes).

the odt is imported, but then hangs (i have libre office 3.5).

(epub looks fine.)

best -
	joachim


Am 08.07.2015 um 10:35 schrieb Mick FM:
>
>
> On 07/07/15 21:15, joachim heintz wrote:
>> hi mick -
>>
>> i guess they are fine.  when you can download and tell me the links, i
>> can put them in.
>>
>> i will be off in some days; would be great to see it published before.
>
> No worries.
>
> For convenience, i've put them here
>
> http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/files/csound.pdf
> http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/files/csound.odt
> http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/files/csound.epub
>
> nice one
> Mick
>

From mick at flossmanuals.net  Wed Jul  8 08:43:41 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:43:41 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <559D3841.70709@joachimheintz.de>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>	<559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>	<559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>	<559CE0E5.2080206@flossmanuals.net>
	<559D3841.70709@joachimheintz.de>
Message-ID: <559D452D.2060802@flossmanuals.net>



On 08/07/15 15:48, joachim heintz wrote:
> hi there -
>
> thanks; i came across some issues.
>
> the pdf is empty (0 bytes).
>
> the odt is imported, but then hangs (i have libre office 3.5).
>
> (epub looks fine.)

Sorry about that. I was rushing there and didn't check properly.

This should all be good now.

Mick


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From jh at joachimheintz.de  Wed Jul  8 08:50:48 2015
From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 17:50:48 +0200
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <559D452D.2060802@flossmanuals.net>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>	<559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>	<559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>	<559CE0E5.2080206@flossmanuals.net>	<559D3841.70709@joachimheintz.de>
	<559D452D.2060802@flossmanuals.net>
Message-ID: <559D46D8.3020905@joachimheintz.de>

thanks.  odt is ok now.  but pdf seems to be the first version of the 
csound floss manual, not the current one.  did you pick up a wrong source?

	j


Am 08.07.2015 um 17:43 schrieb Mick FM:
>
>
> On 08/07/15 15:48, joachim heintz wrote:
>> hi there -
>>
>> thanks; i came across some issues.
>>
>> the pdf is empty (0 bytes).
>>
>> the odt is imported, but then hangs (i have libre office 3.5).
>>
>> (epub looks fine.)
>
> Sorry about that. I was rushing there and didn't check properly.
>
> This should all be good now.
>
> Mick
>
>

From mick at flossmanuals.net  Wed Jul  8 09:36:59 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 17:36:59 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <559D46D8.3020905@joachimheintz.de>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>	<559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>	<559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>	<559CE0E5.2080206@flossmanuals.net>	<559D3841.70709@joachimheintz.de>	<559D452D.2060802@flossmanuals.net>
	<559D46D8.3020905@joachimheintz.de>
Message-ID: <559D51AB.2040103@flossmanuals.net>



On 08/07/15 16:50, joachim heintz wrote:
> thanks.  odt is ok now.  but pdf seems to be the first version of the
> csound floss manual, not the current one.  did you pick up a wrong
> source? 

Ooof. I've honestly no idea what is happening there. But I found a
workaround.

I've updated the links on the preface page too. So you just need to
check it out.

Congratulations again on a great manual with a lot of great updates!

nice one
Mick

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From jh at joachimheintz.de  Wed Jul  8 09:46:19 2015
From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 18:46:19 +0200
Subject: [FM Discuss] epub and pdf at new write site
In-Reply-To: <559D51AB.2040103@flossmanuals.net>
References: <5597FEEA.6060501@joachimheintz.de>	<55980061.9030507@joachimheintz.de>	<5598031E.4030209@flossmanuals.net>	<55985E6C.2090204@joachimheintz.de>	<559BB026.3010505@flossmanuals.net>	<559C3360.7050706@joachimheintz.de>	<559CE0E5.2080206@flossmanuals.net>	<559D3841.70709@joachimheintz.de>	<559D452D.2060802@flossmanuals.net>	<559D46D8.3020905@joachimheintz.de>
	<559D51AB.2040103@flossmanuals.net>
Message-ID: <559D53DB.70608@joachimheintz.de>

yeah that's it.  many thanks, mick; i will announce it now.
cheers -
	joachim


Am 08.07.2015 um 18:36 schrieb Mick FM:
>
>
> On 08/07/15 16:50, joachim heintz wrote:
>> thanks.  odt is ok now.  but pdf seems to be the first version of the
>> csound floss manual, not the current one.  did you pick up a wrong
>> source?
>
> Ooof. I've honestly no idea what is happening there. But I found a
> workaround.
>
> I've updated the links on the preface page too. So you just need to
> check it out.
>
> Congratulations again on a great manual with a lot of great updates!
>
> nice one
> Mick
>

From mark at aktivix.org  Thu Jul  9 05:12:08 2015
From: mark at aktivix.org (mark)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 12:12:08 +0000
Subject: [FM Discuss] puredata manual [was: Re: Volunteer Manual maintainers
 wanted to test migration]
In-Reply-To: <559BC53A.50208@flossmanuals.net>
References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net>	<558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com>	<5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net>	<55992854.8090709@aktivix.org>
	<559BC53A.50208@flossmanuals.net>
Message-ID: <559E6518.10900@aktivix.org>

Mick FM:
> Thanks again Mark keep us posted if you find anything more.

Thanks Mick (and Aco regarding the chapter problem)

I've noticed that there's a dead link to a file we should be hosting, at
the bottom of the "Simple Synth" chapter:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/floss/pub/PureData/SimpleSynthesizer/simple_synth.zip

Hopefully someone has a copy of the file somewhere we can link to?

Cheers,
Mark

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From mick at flossmanuals.net  Thu Jul  9 07:37:48 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:37:48 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] puredata manual [was: Re: Volunteer Manual
 maintainers wanted to test migration]
In-Reply-To: <559E6518.10900@aktivix.org>
References: <558C1777.80504@flossmanuals.net>	<558D1EDE.9060009@phplist.com>	<5590FA81.8030001@flossmanuals.net>	<55992854.8090709@aktivix.org>	<559BC53A.50208@flossmanuals.net>
	<559E6518.10900@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: <559E873C.6050504@flossmanuals.net>

Hi Derek,

We are migrating content from one server to another at Floss manuals and
noticed a file that has gone missing.

Any chance you can help? Do you have a copy of the zip file mentioned
below at all? If there are other ones to do with that manual that you
have it would be good to get those as well.

Hope you are well.
nice one
Mick

On 09/07/15 13:12, mark wrote:
> Mick FM:
>> Thanks again Mark keep us posted if you find anything more.
> Thanks Mick (and Aco regarding the chapter problem)
>
> I've noticed that there's a dead link to a file we should be hosting, at
> the bottom of the "Simple Synth" chapter:
>
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/floss/pub/PureData/SimpleSynthesizer/simple_synth.zip
>
> Hopefully someone has a copy of the file somewhere we can link to?
>
> Cheers,
> Mark


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From mick at flossmanuals.net  Fri Jul 10 07:22:45 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:22:45 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] Fwd: Re: puredata manual [was: Re: Volunteer Manual
 maintainers wanted to test migration]
In-Reply-To: <559FD276.8040004@gmail.com>
References: <559FD276.8040004@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <559FD535.6060301@flossmanuals.net>


Hi Mark,

Here's the answer about the missing zip file.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [FM Discuss] puredata manual [was: Re: Volunteer Manual
maintainers wanted to test migration]
Date: 	Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:11:02 +0200
From: 	Derek Holzer 
To: 	Mick FM 



Well, it was a ZIP of all the patches in the book. Not trivial to remake.

I think I removed it for several reasons:

1) It is a BOOK after all and I felt that some people involved in the 
book sprints were getting lazy by making examples for the ZIP file and 
not explaining things in the images and text itself. This goes against 
the idea of a book to me, in that it is not self-explanatory.

2) I (or someone else) would have to remake the ZIP file every time a 
contributor made new examples. This doesn't lend itself to letting the 
"community" edit the book as a whole, since it makes a narrow pinch in 
the pipeline for that one ZIP file maintainer.

3) A very early server move/reconfiguration by Adam lost the file, very 
soon after the initial project launch. So that would mean going back 
quite a few years to look at this stuff all over again.

If someone wanted to help the manual, they would eliminate that link 
altogether (I still get asked about it every 6 months or so) and make 
sure that the patches in the book itself are complete and well 
documented so that a downloadable file is not necessary.

Best!
Derek

On 10/07/15 15:54 PM, Mick FM wrote:
>
>
> On 09/07/15 17:53, Derek Holzer wrote:
>> that has benn missing for ages, also from my own archives. sorry!
>> d.
>
>
> Ok no worries,
>
> Was it a very involved example?
> Do you think it could be easily recreated in case anyone fancies having
> a go?
>
> nice one
> Mick
>

-- 
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noise.art.technology
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From mark at aktivix.org  Fri Jul 10 15:13:20 2015
From: mark at aktivix.org (mark)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:13:20 +0000
Subject: [FM Discuss] Fwd: Re: puredata manual [was: Re: Volunteer
 Manual maintainers wanted to test migration]
In-Reply-To: <559FD535.6060301@flossmanuals.net>
References: <559FD276.8040004@gmail.com> <559FD535.6060301@flossmanuals.net>
Message-ID: <55A04380.8010804@aktivix.org>

Mick FM:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Here's the answer about the missing zip file.
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: 	Re: [FM Discuss] puredata manual [was: Re: Volunteer Manual
> maintainers wanted to test migration]
> Date: 	Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:11:02 +0200
> From: 	Derek Holzer 
> To: 	Mick FM 
> 
> If someone wanted to help the manual, they would eliminate that link 
> altogether (I still get asked about it every 6 months or so) and make 
> sure that the patches in the book itself are complete and well 
> documented so that a downloadable file is not necessary.

On it

Mark

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From mick at flossmanuals.net  Mon Jul 13 04:13:14 2015
From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick FM)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 12:13:14 +0100
Subject: [FM Discuss] Help requested for compiling FM book data for new
	front page
Message-ID: <55A39D4A.2080101@flossmanuals.net>

Hi there,

Regular viewers to this list may remember a document pulling together
manual names, subtitles and keywords for a new front page design.

The next stage is ready for this and it would be great to get some help.
There are a couple of things you could really help with.

First is that I'm migrating the pad to a spreadsheet to make the data
easier to work with, so help doing that would be great.

* Original Pad
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Q75tIwNwIS
* New Ethercalc sheet
https://ethercalc.org/qnnupgxn6d

The design that Elisa has come up with includes a short description of
the manual.
This is currently missing for most manuals so if you fancy having a go
at editing this it would also be a great step forward.

nice one
Mick

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From daniel at pocock.pro  Sun Jul 19 12:14:42 2015
From: daniel at pocock.pro (Daniel Pocock)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:14:42 +0200
Subject: [FM Discuss] RTC Quick Start Guide - what next?
Message-ID: <55ABF722.6020009@pocock.pro>



Hi all,

I'm looking for advice about how to proceed with the Real-Time
Communications Quick Start Guide:

  http://rtcquickstart.org

It has been created with Docbook and currently only available through
the web site.

I'm looking at strategies for taking it further, having it translated
and the question of whether or not it should be published in print.

Can anybody comment on any of these things?

Regards,

Daniel