From mick at flossmanuals.net Wed Jan 2 01:26:00 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 09:26:00 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Archiving most of the books on write.flossmanuals.net - and how to do it. In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: Hi there, I'm going to start migration on these ones. https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 Helen, I'll add in the latest Upstage too. Any extras? Thanks Mick On 20/11/2018 08:00, Mick Chesterman wrote: > > Hi Matt, > > ? > > Yes to both of those! > > I would agree that those would be in the top 20! > > ? > > I?ve been looking around for replacements to the Mozilla etherpad that > we usually borrow for FM. > > But can?t seem to find a quick alternative and didn?t fancy doing an > install of nextcloud and getting libre office installed on the server > quite yet! > > ? > > So here?s a pad to put in our favourite for migration / promotion. > > https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 > > ? > > Thanks > > Mick > > ? > > ? > > *From:*Discuss *On Behalf Of *M R > *Sent:* 19 November 2018 22:15 > *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] Archiving most of the books on > write.flossmanuals.net - and how to do it. > > ? > > Hi Mick: > > ? > > Just now paying attention to this thread.? Obviously I think my > Shotcut manual should make the top 20 ?, as it's an all-new write > from early this year (and I'd certainly argue that Shotcut is one of > two leading opensource vid editors). > > ? > > And I don't think anyone would dispute that Audacity is easily?the > leading open-source sound editor.? I know someone wanted to do > an(other) big re-write of that one earlier this year, on top of my > update; not sure if that ever happened as I seem to still see my > version on the site; but in any case Audacity surely makes the cut? > for the migration. > > ? > > Let me know if there's anything I should be doing on these to assist. > > ? > > Best, > > ? > > Matt > > ? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Discuss > on behalf of Mick > Chesterman > > *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 2:56 AM > *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > > *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] Archiving most of the books on > write.flossmanuals.net - and how to do it. > > ? > > ? > > On 14/11/2018 21:53, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > > hmm, i'm not sure about that one either. is there a way to see > which are the most viewed? > > Not really, :( > > Also, thinking about it a bit it may be more tactical to make a > decision based on what is most likely to attract editors and avoid > duplication of effort and help build on the existing community. > > I was also thinking that the manuals that seem to date best are the > ones for established media / art / sound making tools rather than for > Interent Security ones. > > For example the one on digital art foundations has probably dated > better than the ones on Interent Security. > http://write.flossmanuals.net/digital-foundations/introduction/ > > /chapter: Introduction / Digital Foundations - FLOSS Manuals > > > write.flossmanuals.net > > Introduction This book was written by two artist educators who teach > digital art and design studio foundation classes. While teaching > classes that take place in software laboratories, we noticed that many > of our students expected to learn to use software, but gave little > consideration to aesthetics or art and design history. > > ? > > Certainly, it's a great time to nominate one or more manuals to "look > after" if you are friendly member of the FM community and would like > to maintain a manual by doing some updates or even by providing > direction to some of the many volunteers we get.? > Just email me if with a manuals of choice if you are interested in > doing that.? > > Thanks > Mick > > ? > > ? > > ? > > probably the UpStage manual doesn't need to be archived, as we > have old versions on the website (i think ... we used to ... ) & i > don't think anyone out there is using the old versions anyway. & > hopefully in the not too distant future we are going to have a > completely shiny new improved platform! :) > > h : ) > > ? > > On 14.11.2018 02:15, mick at flossmanuals.net > wrote: > > Hi there, > > This was a point that came up at the last FLOSS Manuals meeting. > > The proposal was to archive most of the FLOSS Manuals content > in the process of moving to a new Booktype 2.x installation > apart from active or most valued ones , and for me to come up > with a suggestion on how to do that. > I've got a suggestion which is... > > * Pick at top 20 of manuals which we would like to promote > and try to keep updated. > * Migrate those and any that have changed significantly > since the last migration to the current write.flossmanuals.net > * Update the web links of older manuals to point to the > relevant part of http://archive.flossmanuals.net/ for > example one like > http://archive.flossmanuals.net/ffmpeg2theora/ > > I actually think this could be a really positive thing, we get > loads of hits still, and lots of requests to get involved as > volunteers but it's not always clear where to get them started. > I think this kind of focus could really help. > > I'm not sure the best way to pick the top 20 odd manuals > however, any suggestions? > > Thanks > Mick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > > > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net > - you can unsubscribe here > > ? > > -- > > helen varley jamieson > > helen at creative-catalyst.com > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net > - you can unsubscribe here > > "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should > read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer available > on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Wed Jan 2 08:41:17 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:41:17 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: Hi there, I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the new links in here. https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get too excited), and ask for help. https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. In terms of how to help any of the following are useful * check contents and images have transferred ok * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" * export a epub and check it * export a screen pdf and check it * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions on the sites Thanks Mick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at creative-catalyst.com Wed Jan 2 14:48:00 2019 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (Helen Varley Jamieson) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:48:00 +1300 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> great work, mick!! :) i had a quick look at the UpStage manual & it looks like it's all there. i'd like to try doing some minor edits on it, although i'm still travelling so not a lot of time at the moment. but please tell me how i can log in & do that, & i'll try to give it a go. happy new year everyone :) h : ) On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > > Hi there, > > I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the > new links in here. > > https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 > > I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get > too excited), and ask for help. > https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 > > As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. > > In terms of how to help any of the following are useful > > * check contents and images have transferred ok > * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" > * export a epub and check it > * export a screen pdf and check it > * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ > > If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions > on the sites > > Thanks > Mick > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matrobnew at hotmail.com Wed Jan 2 15:50:45 2019 From: matrobnew at hotmail.com (M R) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 23:50:45 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> , <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> Message-ID: Hi Mick: Ditto for Shotcut and Audacity -- it all looks to be there, but I'd need credentials to try edits or export. One question: Is the menu supposed to be clickable to let you jump to chapters/sections? All I see is the ability to scroll the whole book. Matt ________________________________ From: Discuss on behalf of Helen Varley Jamieson Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 4:48 PM To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals great work, mick!! :) i had a quick look at the UpStage manual & it looks like it's all there. i'd like to try doing some minor edits on it, although i'm still travelling so not a lot of time at the moment. but please tell me how i can log in & do that, & i'll try to give it a go. happy new year everyone :) h : ) On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: Hi there, I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the new links in here. https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get too excited), and ask for help. https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. In terms of how to help any of the following are useful * check contents and images have transferred ok * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" * export a epub and check it * export a screen pdf and check it * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions on the sites Thanks Mick _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Fri Jan 4 11:15:14 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:15:14 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> Message-ID: <9d423778-dcd8-80d1-c131-58f1ae4f06b5@flossmanuals.net> Hi Matt, I'll send you the relevant invite codes. Thanks Mick On 02/01/2019 23:50, M R wrote: > Hi Mick: > > Ditto for Shotcut and Audacity -- it all looks to be there, but I'd > need credentials to try edits or export.?? > > One question: Is the menu supposed to be clickable to let you jump to > chapters/sections?? All I see is the ability to scroll the whole book.?? > > Matt > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Discuss on behalf of > Helen Varley Jamieson > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 4:48 PM > *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request > to help test manuals > ? > > great work, mick!! :) > > i had a quick look at the UpStage manual & it looks like it's all > there. i'd like to try doing some minor edits on it, although i'm > still travelling so not a lot of time at the moment. but please tell > me how i can log in & do that, & i'll try to give it a go. > > happy new year everyone :) > > h : ) > > On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net > wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the >> new links in here. >> >> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >> >> I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get >> too excited), and ask for help. >> https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 >> >> As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. >> >> In terms of how to help any of the following are useful >> >> * check contents and images have transferred ok >> * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" >> * export a epub and check it >> * export a screen pdf and check it >> * log any errors here - >> https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ >> >> >> If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions >> on the sites >> >> Thanks >> Mick >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > -- > > helen varley jamieson > > helen at creative-catalyst.com > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Fri Jan 4 11:19:52 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:19:52 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> Message-ID: <6c5f00a7-78f6-30f3-b68b-0532f7049dec@flossmanuals.net> Hi Helen, Please create an account here https://en.flossmanuals.net/accounts/signin/?redirect=/ and I'll give you the relevant permissions. Thanks Mick On 02/01/2019 22:48, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > > great work, mick!! :) > > i had a quick look at the UpStage manual & it looks like it's all > there. i'd like to try doing some minor edits on it, although i'm > still travelling so not a lot of time at the moment. but please tell > me how i can log in & do that, & i'll try to give it a go. > > happy new year everyone :) > > h : ) > > On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the >> new links in here. >> >> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >> >> I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get >> too excited), and ask for help. >> https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 >> >> As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. >> >> In terms of how to help any of the following are useful >> >> * check contents and images have transferred ok >> * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" >> * export a epub and check it >> * export a screen pdf and check it >> * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ >> >> If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions >> on the sites >> >> Thanks >> Mick >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > -- > > helen varley jamieson > > helen at creative-catalyst.com > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Fri Jan 4 11:24:07 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:24:07 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <9d423778-dcd8-80d1-c131-58f1ae4f06b5@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <9d423778-dcd8-80d1-c131-58f1ae4f06b5@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <2a23bcaa-1909-c990-c02e-53d15df06f52@flossmanuals.net> On 04/01/2019 19:15, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > > One question: Is the menu supposed to be clickable to let you jump to > chapters/sections?? All I see is the ability to scroll the whole book.? It's a bit of a different approach isn't it. I would say it's not ideal but workable. But yes the menu is clickable from a page like the one below if you click on Show Contents https://en.flossmanuals.net/audacity/_full Thanks Mick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Sun Jan 20 11:31:52 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 19:31:52 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> Message-ID: <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> Hi there, I just wanted to give a quick update on this process. We've done most of the work on this page https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 Still some checking to do. But I've made the changes live on the https://www.flossmanuals.net front page. So that most of those top 20 now point to the new server. A quick next steps list is * make URLs like https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/ point to --> https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/_full/ * create a public place to log errors for new server and migration process - the link at the bottom of the page is not public * remove mentions of write.flossmanuals.net from the https://www.flossmanuals.net front page, update them to point to https://archive.flossmanuals.net * check the what content is on write.flossmanuals.net, that isn't on archive.flossmanuals.net and make backups of them available somewhere on archive.flossmanuals.net (for example the finnish flossmanuals (we should create an archive splash page for that also)) * complete and double check migration of all manuals listed at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 Thanks Mick > On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the >> new links in here. >> >> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >> >> I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get >> too excited), and ask for help. >> https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 >> >> As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. >> >> In terms of how to help any of the following are useful >> >> * check contents and images have transferred ok >> * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" >> * export a epub and check it >> * export a screen pdf and check it >> * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ >> >> If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions >> on the sites >> >> Thanks >> Mick >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > -- > > helen varley jamieson > > helen at creative-catalyst.com > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matrobnew at hotmail.com Mon Jan 21 12:41:20 2019 From: matrobnew at hotmail.com (M R) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:41:20 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com>, <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: Hi Mick: Just a note that the new front page Shotcut links give a 404 error. The new Audacity seems to be up -- there never was a problem viewing the new version on the site, and there isn't now. I'm not sure what we decided to do, if anything, about the issues we'd uncovered with exporting. Can you confirm that those issues are at least limited to Audacity and not other manuals? Best, Matt ________________________________ From: Discuss on behalf of mick at flossmanuals.net Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 1:31 PM To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals Hi there, I just wanted to give a quick update on this process. We've done most of the work on this page https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 Still some checking to do. But I've made the changes live on the https://www.flossmanuals.net front page. So that most of those top 20 now point to the new server. A quick next steps list is * make URLs like https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/ point to --> https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/_full/ * create a public place to log errors for new server and migration process - the link at the bottom of the page is not public * remove mentions of write.flossmanuals.net from the https://www.flossmanuals.net front page, update them to point to https://archive.flossmanuals.net * check the what content is on write.flossmanuals.net, that isn't on archive.flossmanuals.net and make backups of them available somewhere on archive.flossmanuals.net (for example the finnish flossmanuals (we should create an archive splash page for that also)) * complete and double check migration of all manuals listed at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 Thanks Mick On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: Hi there, I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the new links in here. https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get too excited), and ask for help. https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. In terms of how to help any of the following are useful * check contents and images have transferred ok * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" * export a epub and check it * export a screen pdf and check it * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions on the sites Thanks Mick _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matrobnew at hotmail.com Mon Jan 21 12:48:10 2019 From: matrobnew at hotmail.com (M R) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:48:10 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com>, <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net>, Message-ID: more info: Here's the (new) Shotcut link that works, from your etherpad page: https://en.flossmanuals.net/shotcut/_full/ and here's the FLOSS front page link that doesn't work: https://en.flossmanuals.net/introduction-to-video-editing-with-shotcut/ Basically you just need to shorten the name directory in the front page link and then it works fine. Matt ________________________________ From: Discuss on behalf of M R Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 2:41 PM To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals Hi Mick: Just a note that the new front page Shotcut links give a 404 error. The new Audacity seems to be up -- there never was a problem viewing the new version on the site, and there isn't now. I'm not sure what we decided to do, if anything, about the issues we'd uncovered with exporting. Can you confirm that those issues are at least limited to Audacity and not other manuals? Best, Matt ________________________________ From: Discuss on behalf of mick at flossmanuals.net Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 1:31 PM To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals Hi there, I just wanted to give a quick update on this process. We've done most of the work on this page https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 Still some checking to do. But I've made the changes live on the https://www.flossmanuals.net front page. So that most of those top 20 now point to the new server. A quick next steps list is * make URLs like https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/ point to --> https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/_full/ * create a public place to log errors for new server and migration process - the link at the bottom of the page is not public * remove mentions of write.flossmanuals.net from the https://www.flossmanuals.net front page, update them to point to https://archive.flossmanuals.net * check the what content is on write.flossmanuals.net, that isn't on archive.flossmanuals.net and make backups of them available somewhere on archive.flossmanuals.net (for example the finnish flossmanuals (we should create an archive splash page for that also)) * complete and double check migration of all manuals listed at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 Thanks Mick On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: Hi there, I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put the new links in here. https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't get too excited), and ask for help. https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. In terms of how to help any of the following are useful * check contents and images have transferred ok * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" * export a epub and check it * export a screen pdf and check it * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions on the sites Thanks Mick _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Mon Jan 21 12:57:02 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:57:02 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: On 21/01/2019 20:48, M R wrote: > more info: > > Here's the (new) Shotcut link that works, from your etherpad > page:??https://en.flossmanuals.net/shotcut/_full/ > > and here's the FLOSS front page link that doesn't > work:?https://en.flossmanuals.net/introduction-to-video-editing-with-shotcut/ > > Basically you just need to shorten the name directory in the front > page link and then it works fine. Ok will do! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gpittman at iglou.com Mon Jan 21 17:46:16 2019 From: gpittman at iglou.com (Gregory Pittman) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:46:16 -0500 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <55894ee6-bb45-afd7-6fa5-77924b880182@iglou.com> Hi mick, Just now, I tried to go to https://en.flossmanuals.net, which of course told me that I was on the write site for flossmanuals, and that if I wanted to go to the main site to go to https://www.flossmanuals.net That link gave me a page saying the certificate was not valid, and that it was only valid for https://flossmanuals.net Greg From mick at flossmanuals.net Tue Jan 22 00:43:00 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 08:43:00 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <55894ee6-bb45-afd7-6fa5-77924b880182@iglou.com> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <55894ee6-bb45-afd7-6fa5-77924b880182@iglou.com> Message-ID: Hi there, Sorry about this. That will teach me to try to upgrade Let's Encrypt certbot and redo the ssl certs late at night! Should be sorted now. Mick On 22/01/2019 01:46, Gregory Pittman wrote: > Hi mick, > > Just now, I tried to go to https://en.flossmanuals.net, which of course told me that I was on the write site for flossmanuals, and that if I wanted to go to the main site to go to https://www.flossmanuals.net > > That link gave me a page saying the certificate was not valid, and that it was only valid for https://flossmanuals.net > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here From mick at flossmanuals.net Tue Jan 22 00:55:12 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 08:55:12 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Cert issues - was Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <55894ee6-bb45-afd7-6fa5-77924b880182@iglou.com> Message-ID: <7afee913-80bc-af5e-cecb-64642e2fc61f@flossmanuals.net> Oh no doing that broke http://flossmanuals.net ! I've tried to set up a redirect now. I've got to dash and can't clear my cache for that page quickly. Can anyone check if all of the following work? * https://flossmanuals.net * http://flossmanuals.net * https://www.flossmanuals.net * http://www.flossmanuals.net thx On 22/01/2019 08:43, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > Hi there, > > Sorry about this. That will teach me to try to upgrade Let's Encrypt > certbot and redo the ssl certs late at night! > > Should be sorted now. > > Mick > > On 22/01/2019 01:46, Gregory Pittman wrote: >> Hi mick, >> >> Just now, I tried to go to https://en.flossmanuals.net, which of course told me that I was on the write site for flossmanuals, and that if I wanted to go to the main site to go to https://www.flossmanuals.net >> >> That link gave me a page saying the certificate was not valid, and that it was only valid for https://flossmanuals.net >> >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jh at joachimheintz.de Tue Jan 22 05:27:28 2019 From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:27:28 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Cert issues - was Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <7afee913-80bc-af5e-cecb-64642e2fc61f@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <55894ee6-bb45-afd7-6fa5-77924b880182@iglou.com> <7afee913-80bc-af5e-cecb-64642e2fc61f@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <1e70c81b-5162-6d43-e550-6c417e168b8d@joachimheintz.de> hi mick - the first link (https://flossmanuals.net) gives me this error (in firefox): "The owner of flossmanuals.net has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website." the other links work for me. cheers - joachim On 22/01/19 09:55, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > Oh no doing that broke http://flossmanuals.net ! > > I've tried to set up a redirect now. > > I've got to dash and can't clear my cache for that page quickly. > Can anyone check if all of the following work? > > * https://flossmanuals.net > * http://flossmanuals.net > * https://www.flossmanuals.net > * http://www.flossmanuals.net > > thx > > On 22/01/2019 08:43, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> Sorry about this. That will teach me to try to upgrade Let's Encrypt >> certbot and redo the ssl certs late at night! >> >> Should be sorted now. >> >> Mick >> >> On 22/01/2019 01:46, Gregory Pittman wrote: >>> Hi mick, >>> >>> Just now, I tried to go to https://en.flossmanuals.net, which of course told me that I was on the write site for flossmanuals, and that if I wanted to go to the main site to go to https://www.flossmanuals.net >>> >>> That link gave me a page saying the certificate was not valid, and that it was only valid for https://flossmanuals.net >>> >>> Greg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > From mick at flossmanuals.net Tue Jan 22 11:35:39 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 19:35:39 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Cert issues - was Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <1e70c81b-5162-6d43-e550-6c417e168b8d@joachimheintz.de> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <55894ee6-bb45-afd7-6fa5-77924b880182@iglou.com> <7afee913-80bc-af5e-cecb-64642e2fc61f@flossmanuals.net> <1e70c81b-5162-6d43-e550-6c417e168b8d@joachimheintz.de> Message-ID: Thanks Joachim and Anne! Seems like this apache redirect solution won't work for firefox as it needs a valid cert before forwarding. So I'll go back to wrestling with the certs! Each time I renew one, it over writes the other! Mick On 22/01/2019 13:27, joachim heintz wrote: > hi mick - > > the first link (https://flossmanuals.net) gives me this error (in > firefox): > > "The owner of flossmanuals.net has configured their website > improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has > not connected to this website." > > the other links work for me. > > cheers - > > ????joachim > > > > On 22/01/19 09:55, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >> Oh no doing that broke http://flossmanuals.net ! >> >> I've tried to set up a redirect now. >> >> I've got to dash and can't clear my cache for that page quickly. >> Can anyone check if all of the following work? >> >> ? * https://flossmanuals.net >> ? * http://flossmanuals.net >> ? * https://www.flossmanuals.net >> ? * http://www.flossmanuals.net >> >> thx >> >> On 22/01/2019 08:43, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Sorry about this. That will teach me to try to upgrade Let's Encrypt >>> certbot and redo the ssl certs late at night! >>> >>> Should be sorted now. >>> >>> Mick >>> >>> On 22/01/2019 01:46, Gregory Pittman wrote: >>>> Hi mick, >>>> >>>> Just now, I tried to go to https://en.flossmanuals.net, which of >>>> course told me that I was on the write site for flossmanuals, and >>>> that if I wanted to go to the main site to go to >>>> https://www.flossmanuals.net >>>> >>>> That link gave me a page saying the certificate was not valid, and >>>> that it was only valid for https://flossmanuals.net >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net >>>> - you can unsubscribe here >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net >>> - you can unsubscribe here >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - >> you can unsubscribe here >> > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - > you can unsubscribe here From mick at flossmanuals.net Tue Jan 22 12:19:18 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 20:19:18 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Cert issues - was Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <55894ee6-bb45-afd7-6fa5-77924b880182@iglou.com> <7afee913-80bc-af5e-cecb-64642e2fc61f@flossmanuals.net> <1e70c81b-5162-6d43-e550-6c417e168b8d@joachimheintz.de> Message-ID: <2061a5fe-5a96-5041-25dd-e84ae1e4bfae@flossmanuals.net> On 22/01/2019 19:35, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > Thanks Joachim and Anne! > > Seems like this apache redirect solution won't work for firefox as it > needs a valid cert before forwarding. > So I'll go back to wrestling with the certs! Each time I renew one, it > over writes the other! Ok, I think this is sorted now, they have different certs not sure exactly what happened but this command seems to have fixed it. https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/certification-is-not-working-in-firefox-your-connection-is-not-secure/43090/6 I do like Let's Encrypt for the 99.9% of the time it just works! |Thanks All! | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk Wed Jan 23 05:44:26 2019 From: M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk (Mick Chesterman) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:44:26 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com>, <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <6867ababc3354242802f0b68322e22dd@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> HI Matt, At the moment I think there's also an issue with csound manual as well not exporting at all. Testing and repairing those manuals is on the to do list. But as you mentioned as there are working versions of all of them at the mo' for users, it's not on the urgent list. First step will be to look at the server logs for clues. And then a possible next step is to work with an epub validator and repair tool offline and re-import. I've done a wee bit of testing with Sigil but would be keen to know about other tools that may with this. Thanks Mick From: Discuss On Behalf Of M R Sent: 21 January 2019 20:41 To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals Hi Mick: I'm not sure what we decided to do, if anything, about the issues we'd uncovered with exporting. Can you confirm that those issues are at least limited to Audacity and not other manuals? Best, Matt "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matrobnew at hotmail.com Thu Jan 24 13:33:19 2019 From: matrobnew at hotmail.com (M R) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:33:19 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <6867ababc3354242802f0b68322e22dd@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com>, <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> , <6867ababc3354242802f0b68322e22dd@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mick: Makes sense. I'm not familiar ________________________________ From: Discuss on behalf of Mick Chesterman Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 7:44 AM To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals HI Matt, At the moment I think there?s also an issue with csound manual as well not exporting at all. Testing and repairing those manuals is on the to do list. But as you mentioned as there are working versions of all of them at the mo? for users, it?s not on the urgent list. First step will be to look at the server logs for clues. And then a possible next step is to work with an epub validator and repair tool offline and re-import. I?ve done a wee bit of testing with Sigil but would be keen to know about other tools that may with this. Thanks Mick From: Discuss On Behalf Of M R Sent: 21 January 2019 20:41 To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals Hi Mick: I'm not sure what we decided to do, if anything, about the issues we'd uncovered with exporting. Can you confirm that those issues are at least limited to Audacity and not other manuals? Best, Matt "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matrobnew at hotmail.com Thu Jan 24 13:49:36 2019 From: matrobnew at hotmail.com (M R) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:49:36 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <6867ababc3354242802f0b68322e22dd@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com>, <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> , <6867ababc3354242802f0b68322e22dd@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: [sorry -- last response was truncated] Makes sense. I wasn't familiar with Sigil; I see it is an open-source epub editor. Cool. The only ebook editor/author I've used is Kotobee Author, which is definitely not free -- and just fyi, the new Audacity manual epub export AND the new Shotcut epub export both won't load into Kotobee at all; message says file is corrupted. However, not sure how much that tells us, since the old-version epub exports from Floss also get the same error msg in Kotobee (but they work fine in the Adobe epub reader). All this really says is that I'm not aware of a different tool besides Sigil that could help us. But, as you suggest, it seems we're still not fully aware of the scope of the issue anyway, and meanwhile the new-version manuals all read fine online. Matt ________________________________ From: Discuss on behalf of Mick Chesterman Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 7:44 AM To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals HI Matt, At the moment I think there?s also an issue with csound manual as well not exporting at all. Testing and repairing those manuals is on the to do list. But as you mentioned as there are working versions of all of them at the mo? for users, it?s not on the urgent list. First step will be to look at the server logs for clues. And then a possible next step is to work with an epub validator and repair tool offline and re-import. I?ve done a wee bit of testing with Sigil but would be keen to know about other tools that may with this. Thanks Mick From: Discuss On Behalf Of M R Sent: 21 January 2019 20:41 To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals Hi Mick: I'm not sure what we decided to do, if anything, about the issues we'd uncovered with exporting. Can you confirm that those issues are at least limited to Audacity and not other manuals? Best, Matt "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at creative-catalyst.com Sun Jan 27 09:54:32 2019 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (Helen Varley Jamieson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:54:32 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> hi mick & everyone, finally i'm back in munich after a long travel, & of course now i'm sick ... but i'm getting into my email backlog & have had another look at the UpStage manual. the text links are showing up as a much smaller font than the rest of the text. i had a look at a couple of other manuals & it's the same there. i checked in both firefox & chrome (on linux). can this be fixed? it's a bit disturbing to have a smaller font for the links. i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i was not able to save the page. do i need to save before publishing? & what formats? is there a tutorial for this somewhere? apologies if you have sent it through - i haven't been able to keep up with emails while travelling these last 3 months. h : ) On 20.01.19 20:31, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > > Hi there, > > I just wanted to give a quick update on this process. We've done most > of the work on this page > > https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 > > Still some checking to do. But I've made the changes live on the > https://www.flossmanuals.net front page. So that most of those top 20 > now point to the new server. > > A quick next steps list is > > * make URLs like https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/ point to --> > https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/_full/ > * create a public place to log errors for new server and migration > process - the link at the bottom of the page is not public > * remove mentions of write.flossmanuals.net from the > https://www.flossmanuals.net front page, update them to point to > https://archive.flossmanuals.net > * check the what content is on write.flossmanuals.net, that isn't on > archive.flossmanuals.net and make backups of them available somewhere > on archive.flossmanuals.net (for example the finnish flossmanuals (we > should create an archive splash page for that also)) > * complete and double check migration of all manuals listed at > https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 > > Thanks > Mick > > >> On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put >>> the new links in here. >>> >>> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >>> >>> I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't >>> get too excited), and ask for help. >>> https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 >>> >>> As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. >>> >>> In terms of how to help any of the following are useful >>> >>> * check contents and images have transferred ok >>> * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" >>> * export a epub and check it >>> * export a screen pdf and check it >>> * log any errors here - https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ >>> >>> If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant permissions >>> on the sites >>> >>> Thanks >>> Mick >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >> -- >> >> helen varley jamieson >> >> helen at creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Mon Jan 28 00:07:19 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (Mick Chesterman) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:07:19 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> Message-ID: <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> Hi Helen, Let's have a look at this and use it to start a process for doing some tweaks on the new server to customise the looks and css to how we would like it. I think this does have to be on a site wide basis rather than book specific to keep us sane. I'll start the ball rolling now and keep you posted. Thanks Mick On 27/01/2019 17:54, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > > hi mick & everyone, > > finally i'm back in munich after a long travel, & of course now i'm > sick ... but i'm getting into my email backlog & have had another look > at the UpStage manual. > > the text links are showing up as a much smaller font than the rest of > the text. i had a look at a couple of other manuals & it's the same > there. i checked in both firefox & chrome (on linux). can this be > fixed? it's a bit disturbing to have a smaller font for the links. > > i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i was not > able to save the page. do i need to save before publishing? & what > formats? is there a tutorial for this somewhere? apologies if you have > sent it through - i haven't been able to keep up with emails while > travelling these last 3 months. > > h : ) > > On 20.01.19 20:31, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I just wanted to give a quick update on this process. We've done most >> of the work on this page >> >> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >> >> Still some checking to do. But I've made the changes live on the >> https://www.flossmanuals.net front page. So that most of those top 20 >> now point to the new server. >> >> A quick next steps list is >> >> * make URLs like https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/ point to --> >> https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/_full/ >> * create a public place to log errors for new server and migration >> process - the link at the bottom of the page is not public >> * remove mentions of write.flossmanuals.net from the >> https://www.flossmanuals.net front page, update them to point to >> https://archive.flossmanuals.net >> * check the what content is on write.flossmanuals.net, that isn't on >> archive.flossmanuals.net and make backups of them available somewhere >> on archive.flossmanuals.net (for example the finnish flossmanuals (we >> should create an archive splash page for that also)) >> * complete and double check migration of all manuals listed at >> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >> >> Thanks >> Mick >> >> >>> On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put >>>> the new links in here. >>>> >>>> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >>>> >>>> I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't >>>> get too excited), and ask for help. >>>> https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 >>>> >>>> As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. >>>> >>>> In terms of how to help any of the following are useful >>>> >>>> * check contents and images have transferred ok >>>> * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" >>>> * export a epub and check it >>>> * export a screen pdf and check it >>>> * log any errors here - >>>> https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ >>>> >>>> If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant >>>> permissions on the sites >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Mick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >>> -- >>> >>> helen varley jamieson >>> >>> helen at creative-catalyst.com >>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >>> http://www.upstage.org.nz >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > -- > > helen varley jamieson > > helen at creative-catalyst.com > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk Mon Jan 28 00:23:12 2019 From: M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk (Mick Chesterman) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:23:12 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <3f5483cf0cc84a11995e40542dab90ed@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> Hi there Helen, It worked. Your updates are live. So that?s why there?s a new system in place for editing, you have to send out an invite code to people you want to edit. If you want to do major changes, then we?ll create a new version and swap them over when you are done. You can go here to try it out publishing to check you changes have taken. https://en.flossmanuals.net/upstage-v3-user-manual/_edit/#publish Thanks Mick i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i was not able to save the page. do i need to save before publishing? & what formats? is there a tutorial for this somewhere? apologies if you have sent it through - i haven't been able to keep up with emails while travelling these last 3 months. h : ) "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at creative-catalyst.com Mon Jan 28 02:34:08 2019 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (Helen Varley Jamieson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:34:08 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <3f5483cf0cc84a11995e40542dab90ed@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> <3f5483cf0cc84a11995e40542dab90ed@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8953c63f-7ddb-09f3-6496-7c26a305cfc1@creative-catalyst.com> great, the changes i made are there. it's a little strange because when i click on "publish", nothing actually happens on that page - there's no confirmation message saying that the changes have been published. it would be good to have something like that. & what's the difference between publishing & exporting? if i export it, where does that file go? i tried to export it as a screen pdf, but when i clicked on export, nothing happened. if it did export, i don't know where it is. h : ) On 28.01.19 09:23, Mick Chesterman wrote: > > Hi there Helen, > > ? > > It worked. Your updates are live. So that?s why there?s a new system > in place for editing, you have to send out an invite code to people > you want to edit. > > ? > > If you want to do major changes, then we?ll create a new version and > swap them over when you are done. > > ? > > You can go here to try it out publishing to check you changes have taken. > > https://en.flossmanuals.net/upstage-v3-user-manual/_edit/#publish > > ? > > Thanks > > Mick > > ? > > ? > > ? > > i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i was > not able to save the page. do i need to save before publishing? & > what formats? is there a tutorial for this somewhere? apologies if > you have sent it through - i haven't been able to keep up with > emails while travelling these last 3 months. > > h : ) > > ? > > "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should > read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer available > on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at creative-catalyst.com Mon Jan 28 02:36:59 2019 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (Helen Varley Jamieson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:36:59 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: great, thanks mick :) On 28.01.19 09:07, Mick Chesterman wrote: > > Hi Helen, > > Let's have a look at this and use it to start a process for doing some > tweaks on the new server to customise the looks and css to how we > would like it. I think this does have to be on a site wide basis > rather than book specific to keep us sane.? > > I'll start the ball rolling now and keep you posted. > > Thanks > Mick > > On 27/01/2019 17:54, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: >> >> hi mick & everyone, >> >> finally i'm back in munich after a long travel, & of course now i'm >> sick ... but i'm getting into my email backlog & have had another >> look at the UpStage manual. >> >> the text links are showing up as a much smaller font than the rest of >> the text. i had a look at a couple of other manuals & it's the same >> there. i checked in both firefox & chrome (on linux). can this be >> fixed? it's a bit disturbing to have a smaller font for the links. >> >> i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i was not >> able to save the page. do i need to save before publishing? & what >> formats? is there a tutorial for this somewhere? apologies if you >> have sent it through - i haven't been able to keep up with emails >> while travelling these last 3 months. >> >> h : ) >> >> On 20.01.19 20:31, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I just wanted to give a quick update on this process. We've done >>> most of the work on this page >>> >>> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >>> >>> Still some checking to do. But I've made the changes live on the >>> https://www.flossmanuals.net front page. So that most of those top >>> 20 now point to the new server. >>> >>> A quick next steps list is >>> >>> * make URLs like https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/ point to --> >>> https://en.flossmanuals.net/scribus/_full/ >>> * create a public place to log errors for new server and migration >>> process - the link at the bottom of the page is not public >>> * remove mentions of write.flossmanuals.net from the >>> https://www.flossmanuals.net front page, update them to point to >>> https://archive.flossmanuals.net >>> * check the what content is on write.flossmanuals.net, that isn't on >>> archive.flossmanuals.net and make backups of them available >>> somewhere on archive.flossmanuals.net (for example the finnish >>> flossmanuals (we should create an archive splash page for that also)) >>> * complete and double check migration of all manuals listed at >>> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >>> >>> Thanks >>> Mick >>> >>> >>>> On 03.01.19 05:41, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>>>> I've been doing some migration today of some manuals and I've put >>>>> the new links in here. >>>>> >>>>> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20 >>>>> >>>>> I've also recorded a short video to celebrate and say HNY! (don't >>>>> get too excited), and ask for help. >>>>> https://archive.org/details/20190102163239 >>>>> >>>>> As I say please email me if you are up for testing the migration. >>>>> >>>>> In terms of how to help any of the following are useful >>>>> >>>>> * check contents and images have transferred ok >>>>> * make a very minor edit and see if it "takes" >>>>> * export a epub and check it >>>>> * export a screen pdf and check it >>>>> * log any errors here - >>>>> https://gitlab.com/jazzynico/fmfr-server/issues/ >>>>> >>>>> If you are up for it I'll make sure you get the relevant >>>>> permissions on the sites >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Mick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>>>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >>>> -- >>>> >>>> helen varley jamieson >>>> >>>> helen at creative-catalyst.com >>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >> -- >> >> helen varley jamieson >> >> helen at creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Mon Jan 28 08:23:30 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:23:30 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <8953c63f-7ddb-09f3-6496-7c26a305cfc1@creative-catalyst.com> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> <3f5483cf0cc84a11995e40542dab90ed@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> <8953c63f-7ddb-09f3-6496-7c26a305cfc1@creative-catalyst.com> Message-ID: <7e62c757-76b5-4684-a0d1-ab211df229fa@flossmanuals.net> That is strange, I exported a screen pdf ok from that link. I'll follow up off list to work this out with you. Mick On 28/01/2019 10:34, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > > great, the changes i made are there. it's a little strange because > when i click on "publish", nothing actually happens on that page - > there's no confirmation message saying that the changes have been > published. it would be good to have something like that. & what's the > difference between publishing & exporting? if i export it, where does > that file go? i tried to export it as a screen pdf, but when i clicked > on export, nothing happened. if it did export, i don't know where it is. > > h : ) > > On 28.01.19 09:23, Mick Chesterman wrote: >> >> Hi there Helen, >> >> ? >> >> It worked. Your updates are live. So that?s why there?s a new system >> in place for editing, you have to send out an invite code to people >> you want to edit. >> >> ? >> >> If you want to do major changes, then we?ll create a new version and >> swap them over when you are done. >> >> ? >> >> You can go here to try it out publishing to check you changes have >> taken. >> >> https://en.flossmanuals.net/upstage-v3-user-manual/_edit/#publish >> >> ? >> >> Thanks >> >> Mick >> >> ? >> >> ? >> >> ? >> >> i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i was >> not able to save the page. do i need to save before publishing? & >> what formats? is there a tutorial for this somewhere? apologies >> if you have sent it through - i haven't been able to keep up with >> emails while travelling these last 3 months. >> >> h : ) >> >> ? >> >> "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should >> read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer >> available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > -- > > helen varley jamieson > > helen at creative-catalyst.com > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at creative-catalyst.com Tue Jan 29 02:14:12 2019 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (Helen Varley Jamieson) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:14:12 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <7e62c757-76b5-4684-a0d1-ab211df229fa@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> <3f5483cf0cc84a11995e40542dab90ed@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> <8953c63f-7ddb-09f3-6496-7c26a305cfc1@creative-catalyst.com> <7e62c757-76b5-4684-a0d1-ab211df229fa@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <0ee1901d-e89c-bdb1-2df7-b1578033bde6@creative-catalyst.com> it may well have worked, but no idea where the pdf is! i've looked on my computer, can't find anything. On 28.01.19 17:23, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > > That is strange, > > I exported a screen pdf ok from that link. > > I'll follow up off list to work this out with you. > > Mick > > On 28/01/2019 10:34, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: >> >> great, the changes i made are there. it's a little strange because >> when i click on "publish", nothing actually happens on that page - >> there's no confirmation message saying that the changes have been >> published. it would be good to have something like that. & what's the >> difference between publishing & exporting? if i export it, where does >> that file go? i tried to export it as a screen pdf, but when i >> clicked on export, nothing happened. if it did export, i don't know >> where it is. >> >> h : ) >> >> On 28.01.19 09:23, Mick Chesterman wrote: >>> >>> Hi there Helen, >>> >>> ? >>> >>> It worked. Your updates are live. So that?s why there?s a new system >>> in place for editing, you have to send out an invite code to people >>> you want to edit. >>> >>> ? >>> >>> If you want to do major changes, then we?ll create a new version and >>> swap them over when you are done. >>> >>> ? >>> >>> You can go here to try it out publishing to check you changes have >>> taken. >>> >>> https://en.flossmanuals.net/upstage-v3-user-manual/_edit/#publish >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Mick >>> >>> ? >>> >>> ? >>> >>> ? >>> >>> i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i >>> was not able to save the page. do i need to save before >>> publishing? & what formats? is there a tutorial for this >>> somewhere? apologies if you have sent it through - i haven't >>> been able to keep up with emails while travelling these last 3 >>> months. >>> >>> h : ) >>> >>> ? >>> >>> "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should >>> read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer >>> available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >> -- >> >> helen varley jamieson >> >> helen at creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mick at flossmanuals.net Tue Jan 29 04:34:54 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:34:54 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <6c95039d-7e7a-e46c-ff00-3675b5c03a06@creative-catalyst.com> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> <3f5483cf0cc84a11995e40542dab90ed@BFEX02.ad.mmu.ac.uk> <8953c63f-7ddb-09f3-6496-7c26a305cfc1@creative-catalyst.com> <3ce0b848-4530-c1cc-21e4-330fa4a1c1c8@flossmanuals.net> <6c95039d-7e7a-e46c-ff00-3675b5c03a06@creative-catalyst.com> Message-ID: Great! On 29/01/2019 10:17, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > > ok, now it worked :) the export button went orange & blue, & then i > could see it in the history list below & click to download :) > > On 28.01.19 17:26, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: >> >> Hi there Helen, >> >> Thanks for testing this out :) >> >> Can you try an epub2 too? >> >> tick the box, click export your book >> it may take a while but there should be a notification. >> >> Also maybe try a different browser if that doesn't work too?? >> From mick at flossmanuals.net Tue Jan 29 12:30:46 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:30:46 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] small font size on links - was - Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: Hi there Helen, Nicolas has resolved this issue with the links being smaller now. And we have a space to report other bugs too. https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/ Thanks Mick On 28/01/2019 08:07, Mick Chesterman wrote: > > Hi Helen, > > Let's have a look at this and use it to start a process for doing some > tweaks on the new server to customise the looks and css to how we > would like it. I think this does have to be on a site wide basis > rather than book specific to keep us sane.? > > I'll start the ball rolling now and keep you posted. > > Thanks > Mick > > On 27/01/2019 17:54, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: >> >> hi mick & everyone, >> >> >> the text links are showing up as a much smaller font than the rest of >> the text. i had a look at a couple of other manuals & it's the same >> there. i checked in both firefox & chrome (on linux). can this be >> fixed? it's a bit disturbing to have a smaller font for the links. >> >> >> From alzbady at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 13:58:28 2019 From: alzbady at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?2LnYqNiv2KfZhNmE2Ycg2KfZhNiy2KjZitiv2Yo=?=) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 00:58:28 +0300 Subject: [FM Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 135, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?? ????????? ?? ?????? ???? ??:?? ?? ??? < discuss-request at lists.flossmanuals.net>: > Send Discuss mailing list submissions to > discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > discuss-request at lists.flossmanuals.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > discuss-owner at lists.flossmanuals.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Update on FM write migration and request to help test > manuals (Helen Varley Jamieson) > 2. Re: Update on FM write migration and request to help test > manuals (mick at flossmanuals.net) > 3. small font size on links - was - Update on FM write migration > and request to help test manuals (mick at flossmanuals.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:14:12 +0100 > From: Helen Varley Jamieson > To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to > help test manuals > Message-ID: > <0ee1901d-e89c-bdb1-2df7-b1578033bde6 at creative-catalyst.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > it may well have worked, but no idea where the pdf is! i've looked on my > computer, can't find anything. > > On 28.01.19 17:23, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > > > > That is strange, > > > > I exported a screen pdf ok from that link. > > > > I'll follow up off list to work this out with you. > > > > Mick > > > > On 28/01/2019 10:34, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > >> > >> great, the changes i made are there. it's a little strange because > >> when i click on "publish", nothing actually happens on that page - > >> there's no confirmation message saying that the changes have been > >> published. it would be good to have something like that. & what's the > >> difference between publishing & exporting? if i export it, where does > >> that file go? i tried to export it as a screen pdf, but when i > >> clicked on export, nothing happened. if it did export, i don't know > >> where it is. > >> > >> h : ) > >> > >> On 28.01.19 09:23, Mick Chesterman wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi there Helen, > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> It worked. Your updates are live. So that?s why there?s a new system > >>> in place for editing, you have to send out an invite code to people > >>> you want to edit. > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> If you want to do major changes, then we?ll create a new version and > >>> swap them over when you are done. > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> You can go here to try it out publishing to check you changes have > >>> taken. > >>> > >>> https://en.flossmanuals.net/upstage-v3-user-manual/_edit/#publish > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Mick > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> i tried to make some corrections in the UpStage manual, but i > >>> was not able to save the page. do i need to save before > >>> publishing? & what formats? is there a tutorial for this > >>> somewhere? apologies if you have sent it through - i haven't > >>> been able to keep up with emails while travelling these last 3 > >>> months. > >>> > >>> h : ) > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> "Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should > >>> read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer > >>> available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer " > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Discuss mailing list > >>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > >>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - > you can unsubscribe here > >> -- > >> > >> helen varley jamieson > >> > >> helen at creative-catalyst.com > >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com > >> http://www.upstage.org.nz > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - > you can unsubscribe here > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - > you can unsubscribe here > -- > > helen varley jamieson > > helen at creative-catalyst.com > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/pipermail/discuss-flossmanuals.net/attachments/20190129/c2c9c1aa/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:34:54 +0000 > From: "mick at flossmanuals.net" > To: "discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net" > Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] Update on FM write migration and request to > help test manuals > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Great! > > On 29/01/2019 10:17, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > > > > ok, now it worked :) the export button went orange & blue, & then i > > could see it in the history list below & click to download :) > > > > On 28.01.19 17:26, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > >> > >> Hi there Helen, > >> > >> Thanks for testing this out :) > >> > >> Can you try an epub2 too? > >> > >> tick the box, click export your book > >> it may take a while but there should be a notification. > >> > >> Also maybe try a different browser if that doesn't work too?? > >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:30:46 +0000 > From: "mick at flossmanuals.net" > To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > Subject: [FM Discuss] small font size on links - was - Update on FM > write migration and request to help test manuals > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi there Helen, > > Nicolas has resolved this issue with the links being smaller now. > > And we have a space to report other bugs too. > https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/ > > Thanks > Mick > > On 28/01/2019 08:07, Mick Chesterman wrote: > > > > Hi Helen, > > > > Let's have a look at this and use it to start a process for doing some > > tweaks on the new server to customise the looks and css to how we > > would like it. I think this does have to be on a site wide basis > > rather than book specific to keep us sane.? > > > > I'll start the ball rolling now and keep you posted. > > > > Thanks > > Mick > > > > On 27/01/2019 17:54, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > >> > >> hi mick & everyone, > >> > >> > >> the text links are showing up as a much smaller font than the rest of > >> the text. i had a look at a couple of other manuals & it's the same > >> there. i checked in both firefox & chrome (on linux). can this be > >> fixed? it's a bit disturbing to have a smaller font for the links. > >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you > can unsubscribe here > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Discuss Digest, Vol 135, Issue 16 > **************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at creative-catalyst.com Wed Jan 30 00:00:43 2019 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (Helen Varley Jamieson) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:00:43 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] small font size on links - was - Update on FM write migration and request to help test manuals In-Reply-To: References: <08916508-aab0-e217-8597-024bc8d2b327@flossmanuals.net> <738b2647-de82-7e62-b18b-8285252e7256@flossmanuals.net> <09988b25-4127-5fc6-ee17-90e6ba494656@creative-catalyst.com> <350aff2d-1b57-17db-15be-247b199eb2ea@flossmanuals.net> <27e325b7-303d-e254-c812-e819b5bbdb85@creative-catalyst.com> <9006864d-9aa6-89d0-f884-6b4efa398326@flossmanuals.net> Message-ID: <03b51eb1-21cf-4f5c-0df1-7df6b5f9cb6b@creative-catalyst.com> great, that looks much better. thanks :) On 29.01.19 21:30, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > Hi there Helen, > > Nicolas has resolved this issue with the links being smaller now. > > And we have a space to report other bugs too. > https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/ > > Thanks > Mick > > On 28/01/2019 08:07, Mick Chesterman wrote: >> Hi Helen, >> >> Let's have a look at this and use it to start a process for doing some >> tweaks on the new server to customise the looks and css to how we >> would like it. I think this does have to be on a site wide basis >> rather than book specific to keep us sane.? >> >> I'll start the ball rolling now and keep you posted. >> >> Thanks >> Mick >> >> On 27/01/2019 17:54, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: >>> hi mick & everyone, >>> >>> >>> the text links are showing up as a much smaller font than the rest of >>> the text. i had a look at a couple of other manuals & it's the same >>> there. i checked in both firefox & chrome (on linux). can this be >>> fixed? it's a bit disturbing to have a smaller font for the links. >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jh at joachimheintz.de Thu Jan 31 10:45:51 2019 From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:45:51 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] where should be edit now? Message-ID: <28bfb990-63b0-8e52-f774-d43827364232@joachimheintz.de> hi all - where should we edit currently: on the old or the new fm platform? in my case: http://write.flossmanuals.net/csound/ or https://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/_full/ ? i just want to avoid double work ... thanks - joachim From mick at flossmanuals.net Thu Jan 31 11:29:07 2019 From: mick at flossmanuals.net (mick at flossmanuals.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:29:07 +0000 Subject: [FM Discuss] where should be edit now? In-Reply-To: <28bfb990-63b0-8e52-f774-d43827364232@joachimheintz.de> References: <28bfb990-63b0-8e52-f774-d43827364232@joachimheintz.de> Message-ID: Hi Joachim, I would now say https://en.flossmanuals.net/ for all successfully migrated manuals. But as you mentioned there are errors with two of the csound chapters that stop exporting after migration. Let's investigate that and try to get that resolved. and ask you use http://write.flossmanuals.net/csound/ for now. Thanks Mick On 31/01/2019 18:45, joachim heintz wrote: > hi all - > > where should we edit currently: on the old or the new fm platform?? in > my case: > > http://write.flossmanuals.net/csound/ > or > https://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/_full/ > ? > > i just want to avoid double work ... > > thanks - > ????joachim > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - > you can unsubscribe here From jh at joachimheintz.de Thu Jan 31 13:23:08 2019 From: jh at joachimheintz.de (joachim heintz) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 22:23:08 +0100 Subject: [FM Discuss] where should be edit now? In-Reply-To: References: <28bfb990-63b0-8e52-f774-d43827364232@joachimheintz.de> Message-ID: <30aa69b6-b723-bd03-9681-5bdb035598bb@joachimheintz.de> thanks for the quick answer, mick. i assume the problems with the two chapters should not be too serious to solve. probably some hidden html which ii cannot see. when i want to invite someone for the new platform: how can i do this? ciao - joachim On 31/01/19 20:29, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote: > Hi Joachim, > > I would now say https://en.flossmanuals.net/ for all successfully > migrated manuals. > > But as you mentioned there are errors with two of the csound chapters > that stop exporting after migration. > > Let's investigate that and try to get that resolved. > > and ask you use http://write.flossmanuals.net/csound/ for now. > > Thanks > Mick > > On 31/01/2019 18:45, joachim heintz wrote: >> hi all - >> >> where should we edit currently: on the old or the new fm platform? in >> my case: >> >> http://write.flossmanuals.net/csound/ >> or >> https://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/_full/ >> ? >> >> i just want to avoid double work ... >> >> thanks - >> joachim >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - >> you can unsubscribe here > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here >