From tomi at flossmanuals.net Sun Sep 17 05:54:32 2023 From: tomi at flossmanuals.net (Tomi Toivio) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 15:54:32 +0300 Subject: [FM Discuss] Rebooting the Finnish site Message-ID: Hello, Finnish site has been archived for a long time but now I am rebooting it again. Already installed Bookstack for editing. I am planning a couple of manuals that are quite specific to Finnish language and political issues and the recent developments in technology. Research tools for citizen journalists. How to use open source tools for research purposes. There was a scandal when citizen journalists were digging up old statements by a minister from archive.org, there are all kinds of open source tools for that kind of research. A little bit like Tech Tools For Activism but focusing on all kinds of research tools. It should be called something like Research Tools For Activism. Maybe I should get a domain and install all of the tools and start an activist research collective. And start every chapter with a Guy Debord quote. I have also been asking OKF and EFF about the ethical limitations of things like web scraping. Research like that should respect privacy etc. Another idea is a manual about Finnish language and open source tools. Finnish NLP was always really horrible, but now Spacy (https://spacy.io/) handles it really well. There are also Finnish GPT models by TurkuNLP ( https://turkunlp.org/). Maybe I just include this one in the Research Tools For Activism manual. Generally I am looking for all kinds of open data and data science tools that could be used with the limited resources of a citizen journalist or an NGO researcher if they get a bit of technical advice. Let's see how far this goes, I am just going to go ahead with this and see what kind of collaborators I will find. I have been talking about this with citizen journalism and open data type people. There is no formal organization or project for the Finnish site currently, if somebody asks I will just say I am working on this project as a member of our Linux co-operative. Anybody interested in collaborating on an international version of this in English? For the Finnish version I am going for the things that seem to be important for the Finnish civil society, another country might have completely different needs. It would be interesting if people from different countries and fields collaborated on something like this. So is anybody interested in collaborating on an English version of this? Do you know any open source tools that should be included? Or international open source activist research groups? -- *Tomi Toivio* Open Source Coordinator FLOSS Manuals +358400604828 tomi at flossmanuals.net https://fi.flossmanuals.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helen at creative-catalyst.com Tue Sep 19 09:06:02 2023 From: helen at creative-catalyst.com (Helen Varley Jamieson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 18:06:02 +0200 Subject: [FM Discuss] Rebooting the Finnish site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a21e3c2-fd21-15d7-1de1-167b256db526@creative-catalyst.com> hi tomi, this sounds like a great initiative & i'm sure there will be people out there who are interested to collaborate. i was going to refer you to this list: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/online-tools-for-the-pandemic - but something weird is going on with the pad. seems like somebody deleted it all. i tried to restore a saved version but it doesn't seem to be working properly. if you go back on the timeline to something like https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/online-tools-for-the-pandemic/timeslider#14084 you can see most of it. there are all kinds of open source tools for all kinds of things there, i don't know about specifically for research but there might be something. there must be other networks you can reach out to that would be interested or maybe are already doing something like this. people on netbehaviour for example & some of the feminist tech lists that i'm on might be interested. h : ) On 17.09.23 14:54, Tomi Toivio wrote: > Hello, > > Finnish site has been archived for a long time but now I am rebooting > it again. Already?installed Bookstack for editing. > > I am planning a couple of manuals that are quite specific to Finnish > language and political issues and the recent developments in technology. > > Research tools for citizen journalists. How to use open source tools > for research purposes. There was a scandal when citizen journalists > were digging up old statements by a minister from archive.org > , there are all kinds of open source tools for > that kind of research. > > A little bit like Tech Tools For Activism but focusing on all kinds of > research tools. It should be called something like Research Tools For > Activism. Maybe I should get a domain and install all of the tools and > start an activist research collective. And start every chapter with a > Guy Debord quote. > > I have also been asking?OKF and EFF about the ethical limitations of > things like web scraping. Research like that should respect privacy etc. > > Another idea is a manual about Finnish language and open source tools. > Finnish NLP was always really horrible, but now Spacy > (https://spacy.io/) handles it really well. There are also Finnish GPT > models by TurkuNLP (https://turkunlp.org/). Maybe I just include this > one in the Research Tools For Activism manual. > > Generally I am looking for all kinds of open data and data science > tools that could be used with the limited resources of a citizen > journalist or an NGO researcher if they get a bit of technical advice. > > Let's see how far this?goes, I am just going to go ahead with this and > see what kind of collaborators I will find. I have been talking about > this with citizen journalism and open data type people. There is no > formal organization or project for the Finnish site currently, if > somebody asks I will just say I am working on this project as a member > of our Linux co-operative. > > Anybody interested in collaborating on an international version of > this in?English? For the Finnish version I am going for the things > that seem to be important for the Finnish civil?society, another > country might have completely different needs. It would be interesting > if people from different countries and fields collaborated on > something like this. > > So is anybody interested in collaborating on an English version of > this? Do you know any open source tools that should be included? Or > international open source activist research groups? > > -- > *Tomi Toivio* > Open Source Coordinator > FLOSS Manuals > +358400604828 > tomi at flossmanuals.net > https://fi.flossmanuals.net > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net > http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net - you can unsubscribe here -- helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz https://mobilise-demobilise.eu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: