[FM Discuss] back from wikimania

[adam hyde]

Hey David,

We have discussed this off list, but I wanted to say on-list that its
very nice of you to offer such nice comments about FM.

Also, for those following the thread - there has been some discussions
initated through contacts of Davids to develop a Khmer FLOSS Manuals for
Cambodia. Its a very interesting possibility and currently the
discussions are centered on how this could happen. I sent some FM
material (an example of the Audacity book, and some stickers etc) to
David and those interested in Phnom Penh to have a look at, and I hope
we might have something to further discuss on this issue shortly.

:)

adam


On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 12:54 -0700, David Sasaki wrote:
> Hi All:
> 
> 
> I've only just subscribed to this list so I apologize for butting into
> the conversation without having all of the context, but more than
> anything I just wanted to say how impressed I am with what an
> incredible resource you have all put together at
> http://flossmanuals.net.
> 
> 
> I am heading a new citizen media outreach initiative at Global Voices
> [http://globalvoicesonline.org] and flossmanuals.net is exactly the
> resource we have needed to provide our project leaders with
> documentation for software like Audacity so that they can learn to
> create podcasts, etc.
> 
> 
> A certain portion of our budget is reserved for translating both
> software and documentation into languages where it currently isn't
> available. Part of that money will probably be used to translate
> WordPress into languages like Aymara, Quechua, and Krio, but we'd also
> like to consider sponsoring what has been referred to in this email
> thread as "franchises" of FlossManuals in other languages.
> 
> 
> I think that stipulating that those subdomain sites must license their
> comment either with a CC or GPL license makes sense. As far as hosting
> fees go, Dreamhost (http://dreamhost.com) offers free hosting to
> US-based non-profits. So if FlossManuals (or any of the subdomain
> sites in other languages) become so popular that hosting fees are
> something to think about, it might make sense to register a sister US
> non-profit to take advantage of the free hosting.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> David Sasaki | outreach at globalvoicesonline.org
> Director of Outreach, Global Voices
> http://globalvoicesonline.org
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> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:17 AM, Julian Oliver wrote:
> 
> > ..on or around Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 12:57:09PM +0200, adam hyde
> > said:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > i guess i'm not clear on the scope of what you mean by
> > > > 'franchise'.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > is this another way of saying a language fork? would they then
> > > > also be 
> > > > able to sell on the printed material and give the project a
> > > > different name?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > anyone can sell on the printed material, its all gpl so they can
> > > so as
> > > they like. so the issue is really not about the content as such
> > > but
> > > about spreading the fm meme (the higher the recognition of the
> > > logo etc
> > > the more people that will access the manuals, consequently the
> > > more
> > > people that can then use free software). 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > what i am suggesting is that languages are managed like a
> > > franchise. we
> > > enter in an agreement with whoever wants to drive a lang site.
> > > then they
> > > can use the logo, we help them set up a site based on the current
> > > fm
> > > site (we would have to get a  nice way to make the interface
> > > translation
> > > a bit smoother) etc, but they have to cover their own costs
> > > (server
> > > hosting etc) and if they get off track we can pull the use of the
> > > logo...i posted a longer version in an earlier email but thas the
> > > gist
> > > of it
> > > 
> > > 
> > > it means we can keep an eye on the idealogy and quality but allow
> > > a
> > > language to pretty much go in their own direction - make manual
> > > appropriate to their language etc...if they stray from our
> > > agreement by
> > > compromising the quality - eg. they really make useless manuals -
> > > or the
> > > idealogy - eg. they reliencse material with a standard copyright
> > > 'all
> > > rights reserved' - then we kill their franchise which really means
> > > they
> > > can no longer use the logo 
> > 
> > 
> > well that all sounds fine to me. this would mean of course
> > franchising 
> > couldn't support manuals released on FM under a CC-non-commerical or
> > similarly 
> > restrictive license.
> > 
> > 
> > chars,
> > 
> > 
> > julian
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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