[FM Discuss] Fwd: [Consortium] Outrageous disaster: Ogg/Vorbis spec taken out of HTML-5

[Julian Oliver]

..on or around Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:59:05AM -0800, Mick Fuzz said:
> hi there, 
> 
> i'm going to work on a creating ogg manual this
> morning after this news... 
> 
> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/11/1339251

the sad thing is that this untrue claim of ogg/theora/vorbis being 
proprietary due to patent liability is just a facade: media giants such
as Apple have bee lobbying the W3C hard against including
ogg/theora/vorbis in the HTML-5 specification in favour of their own DRM
capable Quicktime technology. 

Nokia is just playing cloak-and-daggers to look after upstream channel 
providers for their handsets IMO.

it doesn't matter how 'good' the technology is: if it doesn't support
DRM then standards bodies like the W3C will be shoved and bribed - 
as they are now - until a DRM capable platform becomes default.

this may get quite messy. education as to the real root of this problem is 
important to leverage public concern to pressure the W3C to change their 
mind. HTML is spoken by 100's of millions of people afterall.

julian

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> --- Ralph Giles <giles at xiph.org> wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:10:57 -0800
> > From: Ralph Giles <giles at xiph.org>
> 
> > 
> > Note that flaming on the what-wg list is no longer
> > an effective way to 
> > take action. There are people working on that issue,
> > but I think outrage 
> > has been effectively expressed at this point.
> > 
> > Things you can do which will absolutely help:
> > 
> > * Get more Ogg/Vorbis/Theora content out there on
> > the web. The bigger 
> > the pool of media in free formats and the more
> > communities relying on 
> > it, the more attractive it will be for everyone to
> > implement.
> > 
> > * Improve support in the tools you use. Either
> > directly if you're a 
> > writer, designer or coder, or by supporting and
> > commissioning such work 
> > within your communities whenever you can. It could
> > be a lot easier to 
> > work with free formats, and we all need your help.
> > 
> > * Educate your peers about free formats, and what
> > kind of world they're 
> > creating if they're using encumbered formats. I
> > might not cost them 
> > now, but it will cost everybody in the long run. Get
> > them doing the 
> > right thing.
> > 
> > * Agitate with sites you visit to provide content in
> > unencumbered 
> > formats, if only as an alternate. Point them at
> > engagemedia's excellent 
> > "FOSS Codecs for Online Video" paper for technical
> > advice, or help them 
> > out yourself.
> > 
> > * Try out the Firefox and Opera builds with native
> > Ogg support. Report 
> > bugs. If you're a web developer, play with the new
> > support, and build on 
> > the work projects like metavid.org and wikimedia
> > have done to make using 
> > free formats on the web as slick and easy as
> > possible. Push the state of 
> > the art.
> > 
> > In other words, lead by example. Quiet actions move
> > mountains.
> > 
> > For the win,
> >  -r
> > 
> > --
> > Ralph Giles
> > Xiph.org Foundation
> > 
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