[FM Discuss] Fwd: [Consortium] Outrageous disaster: Ogg/Vorbis spec taken out of HTML-5

[adam hyde]

On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 09:05 -0800, Seth Woodworth wrote:
> The Nodia brief doesn't actually mention OGG being proprietary.  It
> simply complains about it's lack of DRM.  /. always bothers me with
> stuff like this.  Still this is an awful blow.
> 
> I've seen a few very good examples recently of OGG/theora, namely
> Waveplace.org's website and Colingo.org's language/phrase videos.
> 
> I've been trying to help Ben at Colingo to encode with Ogg/theora
> +speex.  Vorbis was very wasteful for the spoken audio that he was
> using.  It took a couple extra steps for me, not being super familiar
> with ffmpeg2theora, but I would be glad to document the final
> processes. 

that would be great...
I created a chapter here for it:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/FFmpeg2Theora/TheoraSpeex


I'm about to start writing how to install fmpeg2theora on Ubuntu.

Mick has just done installing on windows, and a basic encoding
tutorial...we are also starting a page in more advanced 'quick' commands

adam

 


> 
> On Dec 17, 2007 6:42 AM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:
>         
>         >
>         > the sad thing is that this untrue claim of ogg/theora/vorbis
>         being
>         > proprietary due to patent liability is just a facade: media
>         giants such
>         > as Apple have bee lobbying the W3C hard against including 
>         > ogg/theora/vorbis in the HTML-5 specification in favour of
>         their own DRM
>         > capable Quicktime technology.
>         >
>         > Nokia is just playing cloak-and-daggers to look after
>         upstream channel
>         > providers for their handsets IMO. 
>         >
>         > it doesn't matter how 'good' the technology is: if it
>         doesn't support
>         > DRM then standards bodies like the W3C will be shoved and
>         bribed -
>         > as they are now - until a DRM capable platform becomes
>         default. 
>         >
>         > this may get quite messy. education as to the real root of
>         this problem is
>         > important to leverage public concern to pressure the W3C to
>         change their
>         > mind. HTML is spoken by 100's of millions of people
>         afterall. 
>         >
>         
>         
>         
>         its nasty business alright. Unfortunately however, Theora
>         doesn't seem
>         to be maintained as well as it was a few years ago. There was
>         mention in
>         the Slashdot forum about this and its sad but true. Theora is
>         lagging 
>         behind the dev. Still its very useful and we should do what we
>         can to
>         provide good docs on how to get the most out of it.
>         
>         adam
>         
>         
>         
>         > julian
>         >
>         --
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