[FM Discuss] FM, OLPC, and SugarLabs

Mon Jun 23 18:55:42 PDT 2008

Hi all,
David, I really appreciate your sentiment about why you contribute to OSS -
in this particular instance, for others beyond yourself. It's my kids and
the kids in my son's preschool classroom that inspired me to work for the
first time on an open source project - the One Laptop Per Child. My first
experience with Sugar was in emulation on my clunky Dell laptop, and I was
"floored" at its elegance and simplicity. I'm excited to think of the
possibilities of documenting beyond Sugar to the Activities since that was
one of our next step ideas as well. (I'm such an idiomatic writer, sorry for
the "floored" reference. :) )

Floss has great topic-orientation as a structured wiki, so it'd be a great
platform to start building modular manuals for mashups of Sugar basics and
Activity tips and tricks. Another idea we've talked about is a Teacher's
version of the manual, using re-mixed content from the Kid's version. I
think that the main course to follow is to keep Floss content for certain
audiences - end users, teachers, deployers, and so on. It would also be good
bridge building to ensure that wiki.sugarlabs.org links to the manuals
created on Floss.

Also, to offer a little more detail on the translated content. There are
also small differences between
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Simplified_user_guide and the one at
http://flossmanuals.net/OLPC_simple... such as the one on Floss has been
professionally edited all the way through. But the differences are minor and
may not be detectable by someone who just wants a quick overview.

On translations, here are the details of which ones are where:
- wiki.laptop has Spanish, Russian, French, Portuguese (outdated), Italian,
and Amharic (outdated) translations, either in wikitext or uploaded to
Google Docs.
- flossmanuals.net has a Farsi translation (Do let me know if there are
others I'm unaware of.)

All that to say, count me in. Glad to continue working towards a set of
online manuals for this particular set of users.

Thanks,
Anne
---
e:annegentle at gmail.com <e%3Aannegentle at gmail.com>
b:www.justwriteclick.com

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> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:33:25 -0500
> From: David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: [FM Discuss] FM, OLPC, and SugarLabs
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> Thanks for your great manuals.
>
> As you have probably heard, One Laptop Per Child is spinning off Sugar
> the User Interface face for the XO to Sugar Labs.
>
> I was wondering if FM would be interested in working with Sugar Labs to
> create manuals for Sugar and its various activities.
>
> Working with Sugar Labs, as a volunteer, is an interesting experience.
> Every other oss project I worked on because I found their product useful
> to me personally.  Sugar, with its focus on elementary education, is a
> bit different.  You don't get a charge out of seeing the feature you
> worked make it into a release.  Instead, the joy comes from reading
> about the success of deployments.
>
> I see two obvious advantage to Sugar Labs.  1. The creation of great
> manuals.  2. FM is a great community based method of creating documents.
>
> To a large extent the split between OLPC and Sugar Labs is a result of
> the tensions between formal hierarchy and community.  For a full
> discussion take a look at http://www.olpcnews.com/ .
>
> I think working with Sugar Labs can help FM in a few ways.  1.  Writing
> manuals for Sugar meets all of the motivation on
> flossmanuals.net/about .  2.  Sugar and OLPC are world changers and you
> can be part of that change.  3.  Sugar has a huge audience.  OPLC is
> currently shipping Sugar and Intel is preparing a product.  So, we can
> introduce many potential writers and translators to FM.
>
> I have subscribed to this mailing list.
>
> Thanks
> Dfarning
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:19:40 +0200
> From: Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl>
> Subject: [FM Discuss] seeking graphics for PD FLOSS Manual
> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
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> Dear FLOSSians,
>
> I'm looking for a volunteer to do some simple graphics and icons for the
> Pure Data FLOSS Manual. The general description of the images needed
> follows. Please get in touch with me so we can discuss them a bit more
> in depth if you are interested to help.
>
> PD FLOSS Manual: http://flossmanuals.net/PureData/
>
> ----TO DO BY CHAPTER LIST----GRAPHICS/ICONS ONLY----
>
>
> # Pure Data
> # Introduction
>
> ---cover image, important!
>
> # WhatIsGraphicalProgramming
>
> ----icons/graphics to go with concepts in text
> ----icons of modular synth with patch cables or similar analog "patching"
> ----flowchart of inputs and outputs between PD and audio, MIDI, network,
> video, Arduino/motors, etc
> ----chart describing relationship of PD to Externals
>
> # WhatIsDigitalAudio
>
> ----icons/graphics to go with concepts in text
> ----icon of speaker cone movement
> ----icon of microphone to voltage to soundcard
> ----icon of soundcard to voltage to speaker movement
> ----icon of clipping audio (I can probably do this in PD)
> ----icon/graph illustrating Nyquist foldover (I can probably do this in PD)
>
> best!
> Derek
> --
> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl :::
> http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista
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> "When is it for?"
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> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:38:56 -0400
> From: "Seth Woodworth" <seth at isforinsects.com>
> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] FM, OLPC, and SugarLabs
> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
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> David, et al,
>
> Anne Gentle's Simplified User Guide, created for OLPC, is almost entirely
> hardware agnostic.  Anne is a professional technical writer and has put
> countless hours into this project since January.  FM is also great because
> if a chapter about Sugar on XO and a chapter on Sugar on X wanted to be
> swapped, FM would do this handily.
>
> Also, Anne tells me that there is a Farsi translation in progress(done?),
> and a rather outdated one in spanish back on wiki.laptop.org.
>
> Seth
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:33 AM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your great manuals.
> >
> > As you have probably heard, One Laptop Per Child is spinning off Sugar
> > the User Interface face for the XO to Sugar Labs.
> >
> > I was wondering if FM would be interested in working with Sugar Labs to
> > create manuals for Sugar and its various activities.
> >
> > Working with Sugar Labs, as a volunteer, is an interesting experience.
> > Every other oss project I worked on because I found their product useful
> > to me personally.  Sugar, with its focus on elementary education, is a
> > bit different.  You don't get a charge out of seeing the feature you
> > worked make it into a release.  Instead, the joy comes from reading
> > about the success of deployments.
> >
> > I see two obvious advantage to Sugar Labs.  1. The creation of great
> > manuals.  2. FM is a great community based method of creating documents.
> >
> > To a large extent the split between OLPC and Sugar Labs is a result of
> > the tensions between formal hierarchy and community.  For a full
> > discussion take a look at http://www.olpcnews.com/ .
> >
> > I think working with Sugar Labs can help FM in a few ways.  1.  Writing
> > manuals for Sugar meets all of the motivation on
> > flossmanuals.net/about .  2.  Sugar and OLPC are world changers and you
> > can be part of that change.  3.  Sugar has a huge audience.  OPLC is
> > currently shipping Sugar and Intel is preparing a product.  So, we can
> > introduce many potential writers and translators to FM.
> >
> > I have subscribed to this mailing list.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dfarning
> >
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