hey Andys is good, mine is a bit disjointed (I think i must have been v.tired) http://vimeo.com/4078924 http://vimeo.com/3819143 adam -- Adam Hyde Founder FLOSS Manuals German mobile : + 49 15 2230 54563 Email : adam at flossmanuals.net irc: irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals "Free manuals for free software" http://www.flossmanuals.net/about