[FM Discuss] "CC" license without "By" -- similar to public domain but has restriction.

narendra sisodiya narendra.sisodiya at gmail.com
Thu Oct 15 14:05:34 PDT 2009


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Tim McNamara
<paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz> wrote:
> 2009/10/16 Douglas Bagnall <douglas at paradise.net.nz>
>>
>> narendra sisodiya wrote:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >      I am silent reader of this mailing list. I just want to ask , It
>> > is possible to have CC-SA licensing for books.
>>
>>
>> No.  It isn't really possible to have any free license without
>> attribution, because the people you are attributing to are the ones who
>> are licensing to you.  It is their name and license text that lets you
>> do anything.
>>
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>
> I disagree here.
> Copyright holders can licence their creative works in any fashion they
> desire. If the only requirement for reuse is that the reuser also permits
> reuse, then I see no trouble with that in principle.
> The original author can waive rights to explicit attribution. However, they
> would still hold moral rights over the work. These cannot be licenced away.
> Therefore, I don't know what the problem would be.
> Tim.

    But somebody, (a person or legal body organisation) must have
copyright associated with the work (It is the copyright holder who
decide that he need attribution or not).
    So the simple way is to, Do not put copyright with writers (wiki
writers), put copyright with main Organisation and release the booklet
under CC-SA license. We can put a legal notice in one page as
"Appendix A".
"(c) Copyright 2009 , XYZ foundation , This book is released  under
CC-SA license. You are allow ......... ,,,,,, provide you must not
alter the Appendix A, this page"

when there are two such book to be merged , we can merge their
"Appendix A". reprinting will not alter the "Appendix A" and this way
it become possible to have "just print and sell book method"
But I am worry about two points.
   1) "Printing individual  chapters "
   2) making a new book from taking one chapter from one book and
another chapter from second book and just join and print them and then
sell.
    Both way we will loose "Appendix A"
To take care of such problem, I can make a online version of "Appendix
A" and use create a tinyurl to it.
    I can then print that tinyurl at the bottom of each page
Ex -

     ===  see copyright and license terms "http://tinyurl.com/2jjlhw"
=====   Page 34


Does this makes any sense ??
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