[FM Discuss] liberation of "co-laborar" book in Perú
adam
adam at xs4all.nl
Wed Apr 14 23:59:39 PDT 2010
very good! i am very glad you have been able to relicense the book and
we would love to host it :) the best way is if i set up an empty manual
in either FLOSS Manuals or in Booki and we get as many people as
necessary together to copy and paste it into place...can you put a copy
of the files you have online so i can see what needs to be done?
adam
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 19:44 -0500, kikomayorga wrote:
> Hi Adam, hi list!
>
> After long discussion we decided to publish the "co-laborar" book we
> made at tanq Lima, Peru under cc.
>
> The book was written under the "booksprint" dynamic in four days. -
> but using gdocs-
>
> Some of you can certainly remember some discussions we had with a
> sponsoring university and a set of heavy pictures attached (sorry for
> that!) around the sprint we made in January...
>
> Now we already have the Cover designed and the full text written, with
> other smaller sponsorships and a great effort...
>
> We´d like to host it under FM or booki,,
>
> what should be the next step? How can we start a "new" book on FM or
> booki? And then we would like to flush the entire book to it....
>
> I know this is not the most elegant way to do a booksprint,, but,, we
> ´re glad it´s CC now : ) ....
>
> thanks!
> Kiko
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>
> wrote:
> hey Kiko,
>
> ah man...these universities...the irony. I feel for you.
>
> we cant put it in FM if it has an 'all rights reserved' tag...
> you could
> try using booki...we will use it for the Transmediale book
> sprint...but
> even then Booki is really for the creation of open
> content...since its
> an alpha install we could look the other way and see it as a
> test...if
> we did this we could not offer support however and before we
> 'launched'
> booki you would need to either open the content or remove it
> from
> booki.cc...also, since booki is alpha, if booki broke in your
> sprint i
> cant offer any guarantees we can help in time
>
> if you convince them to use at least a cc license we could put
> it in
> fm...i dont like doing this, but its a good project and i'd
> like to help
> if at all possible...or you could tell them 'yes we will give
> the copy
> right to the university', but just dont tell them under what
> license ;)
> bruhaha
>
> adam
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 10:06 -0500, kikomayorga wrote:
> > Hi Adam, hi everyone!
> > first,, my new year greetings to all of you,,
> > then,,
> >
> > As i had previously written to Adam, on January 22nd we are
> starting
> > in Lima, Perú a booksprint on "collaboration experiences in
> Perú".
> >
> > The sprint is inspired by a peculiar statistic from 2008,
> saying that
> > "peru has the highest entrepreneurship rate in the world".
> The sad
> > truth behind that statistic is that peruvians are not
> oriented to
> > entrepreneurship because of beeing able to devise any
> special
> > opportunity, but rather that people need to choose working
> "on their
> > own" because of unconfidence, built up over a long history
> of
> > corruptancy, violence and diffuse sense of identity.
> >
> > So, the aim of the booksprint is to collect experiences of
> success and
> > difficulties for collaboration among individuals, companies
> and
> > government.
> >
> > But one "problem" has appeared as we started looking for
> funding. A
> > private university shows to be very interested in funding
> our
> > publication, but they´re asking for exclusive rights over
> the
> > content... At that point i suppose this first booksprint we
> are
> > organizing couldn´t be "powered by" or "hosted" on the
> flossmanuals
> > platform, or am i wrong? As i read the FM FAQ, it says that
> the
> > content should be published under GPL... But sadly the
> lawyers working
> > for the university in discussion here still haven´t ever
> needed to
> > understand what "GPL" means (and that could take months!).
> We tried to
> > explain to them what the spirit of the sprint was,, that the
> content
> > should be available to everyone, (since it´s about usefull
> collective
> > learnings on collaboration). But they won´t fund the writing
> if the
> > content is not licensed to them.. thats the way they fund
> research
> > pubications....
> >
> > Of course we are deeply interested in the FLOSS ideals,
> expanded to
> > other subjects different from software, and we do our best
> to find
> > sponsors understanding and supporting expansion of FLOSS
> concepts...
> > But it seems in the third world it´s still hard to make
> > people/organizations change their minds.... I´m sure we will
> be able
> > at some point to find more suitable funding for "free"
> production. But
> > sadly not at this time.
> >
> > So the question i open here is if it is possible to use the
> FLOSS
> > manuals tools for editing a book that won´t be GPL ...
> please don´t
> > take me bad,, i´m just asking and sharing our problem here,,
> it would
> > be very usefull for us as for learning to know the
> platform... I guess
> > it could still be possible to include in the writing
> "inspired by
> > FLOSS manuals",, but if it´s not possible this time, i
> guess we can
> > wait for the propper moment...
> >
> > thanks,
> > Kiko
> >
> >
> > pd: As i think on GPL or CC, i wonder if it´s possible to
> include "the
> > figure of the sponsor" as part of the license, something
> like
> > CC-made-possible-by "xxx",, i don´t know much on licensing
> so i´d
> > really appreciate if someone can direct me to some info /
> example on
> > that... : )
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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