[FM Discuss] Bug with chapter titles

adam adam at xs4all.nl
Fri Dec 17 05:16:16 PST 2010


On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:13 +0000, Michael McAndrew wrote:
> I know what you are saying.  Booki is the editing platform, where we
> edit books.  It's not the reading platform where we read them.
> 
> I guess the confusion crept in because
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm is still being fed from the old
> editing platform (and hence still has the old URLs in).
> 
> Following form that (sorry if you have answered these questions
> already :) ...
> 
> * Can we publish to http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm from booki at
> the moment?  

not yet. next week it will be working. early jan i hope maintainers can
do it, at the moment its just me or john

> 
> * Agree that it is confusing to have two read only versions.
> 
> Am I right in saying that 2 is a read only version of 'trunk' and 3 is
> the latest stable release. 

yes :)

>  A read only version of trunk is useful when you are editing to see
> what your changes will look like before publishing, but perhaps this
> could be acheived by just hitting a preview / publish button and
> getting a copy located in a preview-like URL, kind of like a release
> candidate?  So the workflow would be to go from TOC to edit without a
> view stage between?

can you check the editor, we just added a 'view' button...would this do
the trick? (adding print capabilities to that view now also)

adam

> 
> I could live without 2, but it is kind of useful.  how about styling 2
> so it is obviously 'unpublished'?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:11 PM, adam <adam at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>         ok...so i think we might have a issue here with confusion over
>         the 'read
>         only' version of the manual in the editing section
>         (booki.flossmanuals.net) AND the 'read' version of the manual
>         located
>         here:
>         http://en.flossmanuals.net
>         
>         as i am seeing it...we do need to resolve the issue of
>         duplicate url
>         name for chapters...however, i am also considering the
>         possibility to
>         turn off the 'read only' display in booki.flossmanuals.net
>         
>         for example...
>         
>         1. we have the edit interface for civicrm:
>         http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/edit/
>         
>         2. and then the 'read only' version:
>         http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/
>         
>         
>         3. and then the manual for users:
>         http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm
>         
>         
>         My feeling is that we have a big potential problem with people
>         confusing
>         2+3 ie. thinking that option 2 *is* option 3
>         
>         My feeling that this is happening is enhanced when I see some
>         bugs being
>         tracked which see to also share this confusion:
>         http://booki-dev.flossmanuals.net/ticket/326
>         
>         So...while we need to fix the duplicate url issue, i think we
>         can also
>         shut down option 2 since the edit interface now also has a
>         'view' button
>         so you can read chapters without needing to edit them
>         
>         i know this is a lot to digest but if anyone can follow this
>         and comment
>         on it i would appreciate any thoughts on this
>         
>         adam
>         
>         
>         
>         On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 00:29 +0000, Michael McAndrew wrote:
>         >         sooo... you want to switch between full chapter name
>         and
>         >         shorther url
>         >         name in editor (in TOC)? is that what you want? that
>         is so
>         >         crazy that
>         >         it might just work! :)
>         >
>         > I love it when a plan comes together.  yeah, the more i
>         think about
>         > it, the more i like the section/chapter hierarchy for the
>         civicrm
>         > book.
>         >
>         > so we would have
>         >
>         > fundraising/about
>         > fundraising/planning
>         > fundraising/configuring
>         > membership/about
>         > membership/planning
>         > membership/configuring
>         >
>         > etc.
>         >
>         > that looks pretty to me (i know, i'm sick).
>         >
>         > imagine this would look really ugly in other situations
>         though, so if
>         > we could have the flexibilidad that would be awesome :)
>         >
>         >
>         > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Aleksandar Erkalovic
>         > <aerkalov at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Michael McAndrew
>         >         <michaelmcandrew at thirdsectordesign.org> wrote:
>         >         > one problem - is this reported yet? we get a
>         predictable
>         >         error in civicrm
>         >         > because we repeat a lot of chapter titles on
>         purpose to
>         >         guide people through
>         >         > the book. for example.
>         >         >
>         http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/_v/1.0/planning/
>         >
>         >
>         >         yes... aware of this. did not implement anything
>         before
>         >         because i knew
>         >         people will get broken links in books. was thinking
>         of maybe
>         >         implementing intelligent rename tool... also, it
>         kind of
>         >         waited for
>         >         permissions. we do have permissions now (at least in
>         code), so
>         >         i guess
>         >         i could implement chapter url_name rename also.
>         >
>         >         > my ideal world enhancement/solution to this would
>         be to have
>         >         the option of
>         >         > overriding chapters names on an adhoc basis and to
>         be able
>         >         to switch between
>         >         > a "section/chapter" and just plain old "chapter"
>         url schema
>         >         for the default
>         >         > chapter titles.
>         >         >
>         >         > thought it might be worth discussing here a bit?
>         >
>         >
>         >         sooo... you want to switch between full chapter name
>         and
>         >         shorther url
>         >         name in editor (in TOC)? is that what you want? that
>         is so
>         >         crazy that
>         >         it might just work! :)
>         >
>         >
>         >         aco
>         >
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