[FM Discuss] Please publish "Making Sugar Activities" and add a link to the "Read" page

Lachlan Musicman datakid at gmail.com
Mon Feb 22 14:32:23 PST 2010


On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:47, Cara Bell-Jones
<carabelljones at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi James,
> Regarding the credits, How to Bypass Internet Censorship lists the authors
> who initially wrote the manual near the front of the book, maybe this could
> work for you too?
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/CircumventionTools/AboutThisManual

Similarly the Open Translation Tools does this:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/OpenTranslationTools/AboutThisManual

cheers
L.



> all the best,
> cara
>
>
> James Simmons wrote:
>>
>> Lachlan,
>>
>> Fixing the credits page can wait if it has to.  If it is at all
>> possible, though, I would like to have the book published and listed
>> on the main page as soon as possible.  While I plan to add a couple of
>> more chapters to it at some point I think the project as it is now
>> could benefit from the exposure the front page would give it.  Sugar
>> Labs could start linking to it from their websites, referring people
>> to it when they ask questions, etc.
>>
>> Is there anyone who could do just the publishing and the linking to
>> the front page while Adam is away?
>>
>> I don't mean to sound ungrateful for the valuable services I'm getting
>> from this site.  In fact I'm extremely grateful.  It's just that I've
>> put many, many hours into this book and I'm anxious to get something
>> out the door.
>>
>> James Simmons
>>
>>
>>>  Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:19:47 +1100
>>>  From: Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi James,
>>>
>>> I think that Adam is on a (well deserved, from what I can tell) break
>>> at the moment. As per his last response to your request to have our
>>> names removed - which I have no problem with personally - I don't
>>> think it's possible given the nature of the software that we are
>>> using.
>>>
>>> The code underlying Flossmanuals is getting long in the tooth, and all
>>> recent developments have instead been occurring on what is essentially
>>> a ground up re-write.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about the ability to remove names in the new software,
>>> but I think that it's a valid concern that we should address as a
>>> group especially since the code base is still so young.
>>>
>>> Anyway - that's a short term answer. Adam will have more info when he
>>> returns, but it's still a fortnight away and his inbox will be
>>> overflowing, so it may take some time.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> L.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have been working on "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" and I think I
>>>> have enough written where the book would benefit by being published
>>>> and linked to from the "Read" page.  While I still prefer my own title
>>>> "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" I cannot get the site or OBJAVI to
>>>> use that title so I'd like to accept the inevitable and go with
>>>> "Making Sugar Activities", which means the Edit link should change
>>>> too.  Finally, many of the chapters are shown as created by Anne
>>>> Gentle when in fact all she did was make empty chapters based on an
>>>> outline I provided.  The listing in the credits page makes it look
>>>> like I modified HER work, which is not true.  Similarly, Lachlan
>>>> Musicman is credited with modifying most of the chapters when in fact
>>>> all he did was publish them, at my request.  If these names could be
>>>> removed from the credits I'd be grateful.  I hope that someday this
>>>> book does have authors besides myself, and I'd be willing to consider
>>>> any writing or editing activity considered authorship, but Anne and
>>>> Lachlan's contribution falls below that threshhold, as I'm sure they
>>>> would both agree.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your help on this,
>>>>
>>>> James Simmons
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>>>
>>
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