[FM Discuss] Recruiting more editors for book sprints

[adam hyde]

hey Andy,

Its not about editors and writers. It is a fundamentally different 
dynamic. If you stratify this dynamic you hamper it and impose arbitrary 
and unnecessary limits. The point is not to have editors and writers but 
to have collaboration. Imagine if you were playing an editor role with a 
book of 40,000 words generated in 4 days. To filter that through one 
person as "the editor" is going to cause a bottleneck that will break 
the process.

This what I mean when I say its the wrong lens through which you are 
asking the question. You are seeing this as writers and editors. Its 
not. Its all about collaboration and facilitation.

adam



On 23/10/11 05:49, Andy Oram wrote:
> What you did was pretty extraordinary, Adam, like a grand chess master
> watching four boards at once and playing each its own way. I bet there
> are certain directions and problems you can pick up quickly now, like
> books that are all over the place with no clear audience or purpose. And
> maybe if a facilitator is dedicated a project, he or she can carry out
> the jobs I mentioned. The facilitator could be an editor. But I feel
> like I was doing something useful that was not just high-level.
>
> Andy
>
> On 10/22/2011 11:38 PM, adam hyde wrote:
>> hey
>>
>>>
>>> I assume Adam has reached the same conclusions, and that's why he
>>> invited floaters to the sprint last week.
>>
>> I think you might underestimate the role of the meta facilitation during
>> this event. I dont wish to take issue with your report or diminish your
>> role but each group was *carefully* watched by myself. If your group had
>> not progressed with or without you I would have taken the process a
>> different route. Its not the necessity of floaters that is at question
>> it is the role and nature of the of the facilitation that makes the
>> difference. The fact that you didnt see this is a pretty good metric of
>> successful facilitation. I think your question is using the wrong lens.
>>
>>> So as always I'm pondering the value of professionalism in
>>> crowdsourced work like this, and how it can be institutionalized.
>>
>> There is a tension here that I think is also captured in one of your
>> blog posts. Institutionalisation will kill this process. I think you are
>> fundamentally not understanding the nature of communities and
>> collaboration. The publishing industry at large will struggle to make
>> headway in this area unless they find a way to get past many of its
>> established core cultural values.
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Andy
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