[FM Discuss] Deleting an unwanted book from My Manuals?

[helen varley jamieson]

i do think that where multiple versions of the same manual have appeared 
(which is usually due to making a mistake, or a couple of false starts) 
it should be possible to delete versions - otherwise it's just confusing 
- not only for the casual user but also if you are trying to get others 
in your community to contribute to the editing. it's important that 
everyone is working from the same page, literally!

h : )

On 29/09/11 6:01 AM, John Curwood wrote:
> With all this discussion I think a distinction needs to be made 
> between works that an author has written for themselves and works that 
> they have consciously written to contribute to free culture.
>
> In some of the examples provided the writer/creator has delete 
> something that they own. I think that once something has been given 
> over to free culture, you no longer have ownership over it.
>
> And therefore the decision is no longer yours as to whether the 
> work/creation can be destroyed.
>
> P.S. I also like Martin's idea of having some sort of holding bin for 
> unwanted works so that they aren't cluttering the space in your My 
> Manuals/Books page. I know about half the books I have in the My Books 
> page in Booki and a few manuals in FM were either created specifically 
> for testing booki or for writing an article on using Booki. It would 
> be nice to remove them from my books page so that I see only books 
> that I wish to actively contribute to.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> On 29/09/2011 10:11 a.m., Martin Kean wrote:
>> Or similarly,
>>
>> http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/
>>
>> So, is there a compromise between a permanent deletion and permanent 
>> keep?
>> Maybe a book or chapter could be tagged, or archived in a 
>> hypothetical 'unwanted-or-something bin'.
>> To the casual visitor it ought to be clear which books are meant to 
>> be on display, on the shelf, and which books are in the bin.
>>
>> To take up Daniel's argument, I would rather argue for 'archive and 
>> replace' than deletion where a chapter or article suffers from 
>> destructive editing.
>> A bigger question then arises, what happens when opposing parties 
>> want to fight over contentious work? Multiple 'correct' versions on 
>> the shelf????
>>
>> Martin
>>
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>> h : )
>>
>> On 28/09/11 6:34 PM, Micz Flor wrote:
>>> people have used their right to destroy their things.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation_Burn_a_Million_Quid
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Brahms
>>>
>>> there is no simple answer to this question.
>>>
>>> my believe is that free means i am free to create to change to 
>>> duplicate
>>> and to destroy.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 17:28 +0100, Daniel James wrote:
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>
>>>>> lets say i wrote "How To Bypass Internet Censorship". The manual 
>>>>> exists
>>>>> only on FM (for arguments sake) with no clones. I then decide for 
>>>>> what
>>>>> ever reason (I'm drunk, i decide i dont any longer support internet
>>>>> freedom, whatever) to delete it...
>>>>>
>>>>> everyone happy?
>>>> I would be, the author doesn't have the ultimate right over their own
>>>> work otherwise. Think of those authors who would rather hide their 
>>>> early
>>>> attempts from the public.
>>>>
>>>> More controversially, I would also support the original author of a 
>>>> work
>>>> deleting a book that had been collaboratively edited. A really bad 
>>>> edit
>>>> can destroy the purpose of the original work, and yet the author's 
>>>> name
>>>> is still attached to that work. I've had it done to me a couple of 
>>>> times
>>>> with magazine articles that I would rather were never printed.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
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