[FM Discuss] 3rd release of csound floss manual released

[joachim heintz]

good to know, thanks -
	joachim

Am 03.05.2013 00:11, schrieb adam:
> hey
>
> So, we are in a transition period. I got too busy to run FM and passed
> the hat onto Mick but Mick also has other priorities so at the moment
> Mick and I are juggling some of the responsibilities but eventually we
> want to have someone that is dedicated to the community management role
> more or less fulltime. That is in discussion as are a lot of other
> issues about the structure of FM. So hang in there...will be sorted
> before you know it :)
>
> adam
>
>
> On 05/03/2013 08:31 AM, joachim heintz wrote:
>> hi mick -
>>
>> thanks for the feedback. i am myself teaching at a university of music
>> (hmtm hannover), so i know that there are a lot of people using and
>> teaching open source software for audio. the linux audio conference
>> (next week in graz) is probably the main forum.
>>
>> i try to promote flossmanuals wherever i can ...=) --- and not because i
>> think i should be a missionary but because it is a really great and
>> interesting experience which i want to share and discuss with others.
>> end of juin there will be a meeting of all german/austrian/swiss
>> electronic studios in music universities at zkm karlsruhe, and i will
>> have a talk there about the csound floss manual as an example for a
>> collaboratively written online textbook.
>>
>> i really appreciate what adam did in creating this platform, and what
>> all admins and other people do to maintain it and improve it.
>>
>> this said, i may also append some critical words. mainly, i sometimes
>> miss some communication and reliability. for instance, when we finished
>> working on this release and i went to the flossmanuals.net/admin.php and
>> pushed it to publish, nothing happened the next days. fortunately, helen
>> had the same problem, so i knew (but only because of her mails to the
>> list) there was an issue. but apart from some "we will check" i did not
>> know anything. ten days later i asked again. then at least some more
>> information because of the various list reactions, but i still had no
>> idea whether this could be fixed soon or i had to wait for a month or
>> so. i started a talk with my csound floss manual co-admins whether we
>> should consider to move to another platform. then suddenly somone said:
>> oh the new release is there! i got no notification, nothing.
>>
>> i completely understand if there are issues. but i'd love to know more
>> about these issues. if things are happening in a way like this, i become
>> frustrated, because we are depending on this platform when we put our
>> manual here.
>>
>> as another example, i told adam about my future talk at zkm about the
>> csound floss manual, and that i'd like to tell something about
>> flossmanuals and its history in general, and whether we could perhaps
>> have a talk about this. no reply. perhaps my email got lost, or he is
>> too busy now, i understand, but many little events lead me to the
>> impression that there could be some improvement here, if i may say this
>> word: in the culture of communication, of listening and answering.
>> perhaps there are some structural problems behind - it is somehow
>> strange to read something like "you owe me ten thousands euro" ...
>>
>> to come back to the bright side: thanks again for the feedback, mick,
>> and perhaps i can ask you something about flossmanuals background for my
>> talk at zkm. i will write you off-list.
>>
>> best -
>>
>>      joachim
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.05.2013 03:45, schrieb Mick - Clearerchannel:
>>>
>>>> alex hofmann will push a printed version at lulu.com in a short time.
>>>>
>>>> please let us know any bugs, errata and suggestions.
>>>
>>> I've always thought the Csound manual is such a complete and great piece
>>> of work.
>>>
>>> Tangentally but relevantly (I hope) I was impressed with the Libre
>>> Graphics Meeting and the moves that are happening there to include open
>>> tools in education. There was a meeting of people who wanted to share
>>> experiences and create a network of educators. There must have been
>>> 30-40 people there. It was great to hear the stories and experiences.
>>> Joachim, is there an equivalent forum for open audio tools?
>>>
>>> The reason I ask is because it strikes me that your manual could be used
>>> as a basis for a foundation or even a post grad module in computer
>>> science in audio. It would be great for you to have some back up in
>>> promoting it in that way.
>>>
>>> nice one
>>> Mick
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