[FM Discuss] issues with Kdenlive manual images

M R matrobnew at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 9 12:16:03 PST 2018


Hi All:


Thanks so much for the prompt replies to my questions.  Although this does leave me a dilemma.  If there really is a hard limit of 600 px width for images in Booktype 1.6 (and no prospect of migration soon to 2.3), then I guess I need to decide how much I care about the print format (or maybe PDF too?) as opposed to the html version.  I've always felt that FM was most useful in it's  html format, and then perhaps secondarily as an ePUB book export. So one follow-up question for Mick is whether the width restriction applies to ePUB format as well? I'm guessing it does, based on my ePUB version of the rewritten Audacity manual.  Actually, now that I look at it closely, that ePUB suffers from many of the same formatting issues as the PDF--so I guess I won't go around showing that version to everybody 😊.


Meanwhile, though, Maren is correct: the restriction on image width (and resulting distortion) seems to disappear when  you look at a published book in html format, or even "View Draft" of a book in progress from the main book page, e.g. http://write.flossmanuals.net/introduction-to-video-editing-with-shotcut/_info/ in the case of my new manual.  This is interesting because the same  1366-width screenshot (see the Installing chapter) shows up distorted not just in the editor, but also when you hit "View Chapter" from within the editor, and expand that new window as much as possible. You have to "View Draft" from the main book page to see the image properly proportioned in that chapter.  Btw, Maren's Inkscape book is absolutely gorgeous, but as far as I can tell most of the images there seem to actually stay within the 600 or 700 px limit.  I did that myself with the Audacity book, in order to avoid what I thought was otherwise inescapable distortion.  I have tons of screenshots but I sized my Audacity window itself as small as I felt I could, practically, and then generally just captured a particular panel or region or control area of it.  I'll see to what extent that works for Shotcut too.  600 px is a pretty draconian limit for modern screenshots, though, as no one in their right might would use most of these editing tools at that width.  I get that the print version needs some kind of image width limit.  One would think that the "Constrain Proportions" function would at least, you know, constrain proportions if the image exceeded that limit, and simply show a smaller overall screenshot.  But I can't get that to work in the editor: it seems to always take the actual height but constain the width.  No doubt why they fixed it in 2.2...


Matt


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From: Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net> on behalf of Daniel James <daniel.james at booktype.org>
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 5:41 AM
To: mick at flossmanuals.net; discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] issues with Kdenlive manual images

Hi Mick,

> I know the limit used to be 600px wide and I have always stuck to that.

Booktype has come a long way since those days :-)

> I am pretty sure that this is a limit that has
> increased in Booktype 2.x and also he might have more knowledge of what
> happens if we use a wider images size in 1.6 and any potential hacks.

In Booktype 2.3 you can use any image size you want, as long as the
resolution is high enough for print output (should that be one of your
targets). There are also tools for zooming, cropping etc. built in.

Cheers!

Daniel
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