[FM Discuss] introducing myself

Wed Jan 3 15:59:56 PST 2018

Hi Rosalind,

sorry, I didn't have the time to get to this before now.

Sounds like a great plan - and if you would like to dig into layout,
please familiarize yourself with the instructions on gitlab:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/tree/master/beginners_guide

and with the details given at
http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/formless-content/

and let me know if you think that's something you can work with.

You will find a CSS file that has been started by Jabier, one of our
main developers, who also happens to be a web designer, in the
repository (first link, click on css_and_fonts).

Inkscape doesn't have an official style guide yet, but it would be good
to stick with the branding guide lines and to try to stick to the color
scheme of the website:
https://inkscape.org/en/about/branding/

For screenshot-making, you should be using a Windows computer. But what
you could do on your Mac is prepare the drawings that can be screen-shot
(?) by someone with a Windows machine. Check out the chapters that we
have, look for images that require translation and contain a drawing,
then prepare a drawing and let us know here:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/issues/16

Kind Regards,
 Maren

Am 30.12.2017 um 04:19 schrieb Rosalind Lord:
> Hi Maren:
> 
> I will be happy to flesh out the default way of installing Inkscape into
> a Mac, and mainly focus on that.
> 
> I will also be happy to keep this updated, no problem.
> 
> And I am all for splitting the 3 OSes into different sections.
> 
> I can also help with images and layouting, since I have lots of
> experience in that area.
> 
> Have a great new year weekend,
> 
> - Rosalind
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Maren Hachmann <maren at goos-habermann.de
>> <mailto:maren at goos-habermann.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rosalind,
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> There are no deadlines ;-) In principle, the book basis is almost ready,
>> except for images and layouting, but those two things are going very slow.
>>
>> What I was referring to was that you described the XQuartz installation,
>> but not the Inkscape installation and setup yet, so what we have up to
>> now is step 1 out of 5 on the linked web page. Install instructions
>> might change with the next major version, too, so I hope you'll help us
>> by keeping them updated, if you can :)
>>
>> The most tricky part, though, is the adaptation of any settings, also
>> take a look into our FAQ:
>> https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/, section 'Mac OS specific problems'.
>> This is important so keyboard shortcuts will work correctly, and
>> copy-pasting does the expected thing (and not paste screenshots/bitmap
>> copies) of the vector contents.
>>
>> As for Macports and Homebrew, those are mostly for advanced users, who
>> do not mind to use the command line etc. Installation is complex, and
>> requires lots of software to download and install first. I think that
>> beyond mentioning them, it's not within the scope of a beginners' guide
>> to explain how to do installation with them.
>>
>> So I'd like to ask you to rather flesh out the default option a bit, and
>> to not invest too much into the other options. That's going to benefit
>> the un-techy users that we're targeting in the guide most.
>>
>> (I'm not on a Mac, but I've been discussing these things with the people
>> who provide the MacPorts port and the Homebrew brew, and wrote the
>> install instructions on the website for those ;-))
>>
>> I'm thinking of maybe splitting the three OSs into separate chapters, as
>> that way people can skip the chapters they don't need to read about more
>> easily. That would also mean to reorganize the sections a bit. What do
>> you think about that?
>>
>> Kind Regards + best wishes for the new year,
>> Maren
>>
>> On 29.12.2017 21:21, Rosalind Lord wrote:
>>> Hi Maren:
>>>
>>> No problem, I will definitely include the other 2 ways to install
>>> Inkscape in a Mac.
>>>
>>> And I will be happy to discuss new chapters with the rest of the group
>>> before I create a new one.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if there are any specific deadlines, and I will work
>>> on reaching them.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to all of you,
>>>
>>> - Rosalind
>>>
>>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Maren Hachmann <maren at goos-habermann.de
>>>> <mailto:maren at goos-habermann.de>
>>>> <mailto:maren at goos-habermann.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ooops, there was an error: the licence is CC-By 4.0.
>>>> Sorry!
>>>>
>>>> Maren
>>>>
>>>> Am 28.12.2017 um 19:58 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
>>>>> Hi Rosalind,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for your introduction, we're happy to have you!
>>>>>
>>>>> As discussion about the manual happens at gitlab, mostly
>>>>> (https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/issues) and -
>>>>> for big
>>>>> announcements - on the inkscape-docs mailing list, please just pop over
>>>>> there and say hello! (most of the others are probably not registered
>>>>> here).
>>>>>
>>>>> Also read up on the book's details here:
>>>>> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals#inkscape-beginners-guide
>>>>>
>>>>> By contributing, you agree to make your contributions according to the
>>>>> book's licence, which is CC-By-SA 4.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the installation chapter, that's a good idea!
>>>>> New ideas are usually - at least shortly - discussed in the team,
>>>>> but an
>>>>> installation chapter was on the list anyway, so it's great that you
>>>>> started on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's some more info for installation on OS X:
>>>>> https://inkscape.org/en/release/0.92.2/mac-os-x/107/dmg/
>>>>> Your description is already fleshing out step one, which is described
>>>>> rather sparsely in the instructions. Great start!
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you fill in the other steps for MacOS, too? (please don't just
>>>>> copy-paste, the licences of website and book are incompatible). We
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have any other OS X user contributing to the manual, as far as I can
>>>>> remember, so that would be really helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you'll enjoy working on the book with us!
>>>>>
>>>>> See you on gitlab,
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Maren
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 28.12.2017 um 04:02 schrieb Rosalind Lord:
>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just joined Floss Manuals, as I’m pursuing a career in technical
>>>>>> writing. My background includes web design and development, and
>>>>>> reviewing tech books (see http://seaserpent.com/writings/).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also wrote an article explaining differences between two versions of
>>>>>> Coocs 2D, which I believe is the closest to technical writing I’ve
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>> You can check it out
>>>>>> at http://seaserpent.com/blog/2012/05/how-to-do-tutorials-in-iad-producer-book-using-2-1/.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have already created a new chapter in the book “Start with Inkscape”
>>>>>> (http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/_info/). This
>>>>>> chapter
>>>>>> is on how to install Inkscape. I have written a section on how to
>>>>>> install Inkscape into Mac OSX, since it is the only desktop machine I
>>>>>> have. I have also include blank sections for Windows and
>>>>>> Gnu/Linux. They
>>>>>> are here for you to fill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to meeting and working all of you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Rosalind Lord
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