[FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book

Mick Chesterman M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk
Thu Jan 25 00:04:14 PST 2018


Great but strange.

What URL are you testing
I was testing here where it is still 12px for me on Firefox
http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/test-chapter-for-trying-out-styling/

Thanks
Mick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] On Behalf Of
> Maren Hachmann
> Sent: 24 January 2018 21:34
> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>
> I don't see any problems, it seemst to have worked just fine, see screenshot.
>
> Thank you very much, Mick!
>
> Maren
>
> Am 24.01.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Rosalind Lord:
> > Mick, would you like me to help with this? I have lots of experience
> > coding HTML and CSS.
> >
> > - Rosalind
> >
> >> On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Mick Chesterman
> <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk
> >> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> I've added an override but it doesn't seem to have taken.
> >> Can you start a ticket here and let's try to solve this together.
> >> https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Mick
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] On
> >>> Behalf Of Maren Hachmann
> >>> Sent: 23 January 2018 23:16
> >>> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> >>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> >>> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
> >>>
> >>> Piggy-backing, as I've got a CSS change request, too:
> >>> The font size for ordered / unordered lists is too small by default
> >>> (12px instead of 13px for all other text in a manual), because the
> >>> lists are not wrapped in paragraphs (which have a font size of 13),
> >>> and inherit the body font size.
> >>>
> >>> As this doesn't only affect the Inkscape guide, but all books on the
> >>> site, and all lists in them, it needs to be fixed on server level.
> >>> Fixing each list individually, and thus having inline styles that
> >>> might mess up exporting would be possible, but tedious and ugly.
> >>>
> >>> Could you please set the font size for lists inside the content area
> >>> to 13, too?
> >>>
> >>> CSS to modify, starting line 1574 in booki.css:
> >>>
> >>> #full-view-content p, #bookcontent p, #bookcontent ol, #bookcontent
> >>> ul {
> >>> font-size: 13px;
> >>> line-height: 140%;
> >>> margin: 1em 0;
> >>> padding: 0;
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Maren
> >>>
> >>> Am 23.01.2018 um 04:31 schrieb M R:
> >>>> Thanks, Mick -- the weekend would be fine with me.  Maybe best to
> >>>> have someone who has some familiarity with the old book, and in
> >>>> general with the folkways of FM.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I may have mentioned this before, but there's one specific
> >>>> formatting issue I'd like you (or whoever reviews) to consider,
> >>>> aside from whatever else comes up.  In the Menu Bar chapter there
> >>>> is extensive use of tables to hold the menu information.  As I did
> >>>> wherever possible, here I preserved the formatting from the
> >>>> original book, where these tables were set to zero cell padding and
> >>>> no border.  This worked well enough in the original version, when
> >>>> each cell entry was at most a single sentence in length, and it
> >>>> resulted in a nice clean design.  However, Audacity 2.x's much more
> >>>> extensive use of submenus forced me to make considerably longer
> >>>> entries in some of those table cells, and I'm not certain how
> >>>> readable the end result is for some tables.  I think the solution
> >>>> would be pretty straightforward: either adding a bit of cell padding to
> each table, or adding a narrow border.
> >>>> But I didn't want to go either way without consultation.  I don't
> >>>> think this issue afflicts any chapter beyond the Menu Bar ch.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> -----
> >>>> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
> >>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of Mick
> >>>> Chesterman <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk
> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>>
> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 1:00 AM
> >>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> >>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> HI there,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This sounds good. Can  anyone step forward to have a look over the
> >>>> Audacity manual before we do a pdf and epub print for the front page?
> >>>>
> >>>> I can do it at the weekend if not.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Mick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mick Chesterman
> >>>>
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> >>>> *From:*Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] *On
> >>>> Behalf Of *M R
> >>>> *Sent:* 18 January 2018 21:05
> >>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> >>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mick:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It looks to me like other folks have finished adding in their
> >>>> pieces to the non-Windows sections of the manual re-write, so
> >>>> whenever you get a chance at some quality control (just because I
> >>>> assume that someone needs to, who hasn't been a
> >>>> writer-contributor), then we can wrap this up and get it published,
> >>>> to start helping whoever out there might actually want to use it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually, I suppose someone else could handle the review too -- not
> >>>> sure what the protocol is here.  But I just wanted to make sure
> >>>> this stays in the queue as a near-term task.  I assume we all have
> >>>> day jobs 😊(I'm a college professor so I was just on holiday break
> >>>> -- that's why I could find 50 hrs or so to do the bulk of the rewrite).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> -----
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
> >>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> >>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of Mick
> >>>> Chesterman <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk
> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>
> >>> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>>
> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2018 4:12 AM
> >>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
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> >>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> To exit  chapter titles you just double click into the title on the
> >>>> chapter list screen.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
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> >>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of M R
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> >>>>
> >>>> *Sent:*12 January 2018 10:55
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> >>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I actually wanted to edit some of the other chapter TITLES a bit,
> >>>> but couldn't figure out a way to do that.  No big deal though, as
> >>>> the current titles will serve.  I did drag one entire chapter out
> >>>> of the to-be-published structure and down to the bottom: that was
> >>>> "MP3 INSTALLATION ON WINDOWS" bc it's no longer necessary to
> >>>> install the
> >>> LAME
> >>>> MP3 codec separately.  Just one of many ways that Audacity has
> >>>> gotten more user-friendly over the years.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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