[FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book

Martin Kean Martin.Kean at op.ac.nz
Thu Jan 25 15:01:59 PST 2018 

Hi Maren and Matt,


I've just added Katou as a user, who is interested in proofreading and localisation, along with writing and editing. Does the Audacity manual need proofreading?


Username: katou
Email: katou at live.it


Thanks, Martin

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From: Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net> on behalf of Maren Hachmann <maren at goos-habermann.de>
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 3:35:58 a.m.
To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book

Yes, same URL - maybe something with your browser cache not refreshing?

Maren

Am 25.01.2018 um 09:04 schrieb Mick Chesterman:
> Great but strange.
>
> What URL are you testing
> I was testing here where it is still 12px for me on Firefox
> http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/test-chapter-for-trying-out-styling/
>
> Thanks
> Mick
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] On Behalf Of
>> Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: 24 January 2018 21:34
>> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>
>> I don't see any problems, it seemst to have worked just fine, see screenshot.
>>
>> Thank you very much, Mick!
>>
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 24.01.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Rosalind Lord:
>>> Mick, would you like me to help with this? I have lots of experience
>>> coding HTML and CSS.
>>>
>>> - Rosalind
>>>
>>>> On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Mick Chesterman
>> <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk
>>>> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I've added an override but it doesn't seem to have taken.
>>>> Can you start a ticket here and let's try to solve this together.
>>>> https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Maren Hachmann
>>>>> Sent: 23 January 2018 23:16
>>>>> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>
>>>>> Piggy-backing, as I've got a CSS change request, too:
>>>>> The font size for ordered / unordered lists is too small by default
>>>>> (12px instead of 13px for all other text in a manual), because the
>>>>> lists are not wrapped in paragraphs (which have a font size of 13),
>>>>> and inherit the body font size.
>>>>>
>>>>> As this doesn't only affect the Inkscape guide, but all books on the
>>>>> site, and all lists in them, it needs to be fixed on server level.
>>>>> Fixing each list individually, and thus having inline styles that
>>>>> might mess up exporting would be possible, but tedious and ugly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please set the font size for lists inside the content area
>>>>> to 13, too?
>>>>>
>>>>> CSS to modify, starting line 1574 in booki.css:
>>>>>
>>>>> #full-view-content p, #bookcontent p, #bookcontent ol, #bookcontent
>>>>> ul {
>>>>> font-size: 13px;
>>>>> line-height: 140%;
>>>>> margin: 1em 0;
>>>>> padding: 0;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Maren
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.01.2018 um 04:31 schrieb M R:
>>>>>> Thanks, Mick -- the weekend would be fine with me.  Maybe best to
>>>>>> have someone who has some familiarity with the old book, and in
>>>>>> general with the folkways of FM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I may have mentioned this before, but there's one specific
>>>>>> formatting issue I'd like you (or whoever reviews) to consider,
>>>>>> aside from whatever else comes up.  In the Menu Bar chapter there
>>>>>> is extensive use of tables to hold the menu information.  As I did
>>>>>> wherever possible, here I preserved the formatting from the
>>>>>> original book, where these tables were set to zero cell padding and
>>>>>> no border.  This worked well enough in the original version, when
>>>>>> each cell entry was at most a single sentence in length, and it
>>>>>> resulted in a nice clean design.  However, Audacity 2.x's much more
>>>>>> extensive use of submenus forced me to make considerably longer
>>>>>> entries in some of those table cells, and I'm not certain how
>>>>>> readable the end result is for some tables.  I think the solution
>>>>>> would be pretty straightforward: either adding a bit of cell padding to
>> each table, or adding a narrow border.
>>>>>> But I didn't want to go either way without consultation.  I don't
>>>>>> think this issue afflicts any chapter beyond the Menu Bar ch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of Mick
>>>>>> Chesterman <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk
>> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 1:00 AM
>>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This sounds good. Can  anyone step forward to have a look over the
>>>>>> Audacity manual before we do a pdf and epub print for the front page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can do it at the weekend if not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick Chesterman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Educational Innovation and Enterprise Tutor &
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EdLab Project Developer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Department of Childhood, Youth and Education Studies.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *M R
>>>>>> *Sent:* 18 January 2018 21:05
>>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks to me like other folks have finished adding in their
>>>>>> pieces to the non-Windows sections of the manual re-write, so
>>>>>> whenever you get a chance at some quality control (just because I
>>>>>> assume that someone needs to, who hasn't been a
>>>>>> writer-contributor), then we can wrap this up and get it published,
>>>>>> to start helping whoever out there might actually want to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I suppose someone else could handle the review too -- not
>>>>>> sure what the protocol is here.  But I just wanted to make sure
>>>>>> this stays in the queue as a near-term task.  I assume we all have
>>>>>> day jobs 😊(I'm a college professor so I was just on holiday break
>>>>>> -- that's why I could find 50 hrs or so to do the bulk of the rewrite).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of Mick
>>>>>> Chesterman <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk
>> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>
>>>>> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2018 4:12 AM
>>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To exit  chapter titles you just double click into the title on the
>>>>>> chapter list screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of M R
>>>>>> <matrobnew at hotmail.com <mailto:matrobnew at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:matrobnew at hotmail.com>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:*12 January 2018 10:55
>>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I actually wanted to edit some of the other chapter TITLES a bit,
>>>>>> but couldn't figure out a way to do that.  No big deal though, as
>>>>>> the current titles will serve.  I did drag one entire chapter out
>>>>>> of the to-be-published structure and down to the bottom: that was
>>>>>> "MP3 INSTALLATION ON WINDOWS" bc it's no longer necessary to
>>>>>> install the
>>>>> LAME
>>>>>> MP3 codec separately.  Just one of many ways that Audacity has
>>>>>> gotten more user-friendly over the years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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