Hey there,<br><br>Here are some reasons why I see statistics as useful:<br><br>Our book is aimed at the non-technical end user whereas our wiki (<a href="http://wiki.civicrm.org/" target="_blank">wiki.civicrm.org</a>)
is aimed at the technical user/developer. Knowing how many people are
reading the one compared to the other gives us really useful
information about our audience. Information that is really useful in
shaping our project.<br>
<br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">It takes 5 minutes to make a
book...why do we need to prioritise which one gets made?<br></blockquote><div><br>I
don't want to prioritise which books get made. I am interested in prioritising resources within the CiviCRM project.
Having stats on how many people read the manual and what parts of it
they read would be very useful for us to prioritise our resources. We could say things like
"wow, 10 times more people are reading
our chapter on 'event management' compared to the chapter on
'membership administration' - lets ask our volunteer with one day to
spend on the project to concentrate on that chapter".<br><br>
I disagree with you that if flossmanuals collected stats they would 'become
the rule', but I don't think I would be successful in convincing you of my point of view on that subject!<br></div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
if [a funding application] needs backing up, get testimonials...any thoughts on this?<br>
</blockquote><br>Yes. Testimonials are great and we have collected a
few already. But they are take a fair amount of effort to collect and
are anecdotal and can't claim to be representative.
Pageviews, in comparision, are incredibly easy to collect and they give
us very reliable information who is reading what. <br><br>
I take your point that creators should take more responsibility
for their books - it would be a good solution for a project like ours which is interested in stats. Can
anyone give me an idea of how much time it would take to re-create <a href="http://www.sesawe.org/-Manuals-.html" target="_blank">http://www.sesawe.org/-Manuals-.html</a> for CiviCRM?<br>
<br>
If we were to go down that route would you be up for 'discouraging' people from browsing the CiviCRM on <a href="http://flossmanuals.net">flossmanuals.net</a> in order that we get a better picture of our stats? What do you think about a redirect from <a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm">http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm</a> to <a href="http://book.civicrm.org">http://book.civicrm.org</a>? or something a little less blunt like 'are you sure you want to read this manual here? We'd prefer it if you read it at <a href="http://book.civicrm.org">http://book.civicrm.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/9/29 adam hyde <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adam@flossmanuals.net">adam@flossmanuals.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 07:56 -0500, Anne Gentle wrote:<br>
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><br>
> We are not your distribution agent.<br>
><br>
> Ok, that last line speaks volumes. It explains why reader experience<br>
> hasn't changed much. I can agree with that now that I understand<br>
> that's your stance.<br>
<br>
</div>So, reader experience aside. I think its really up to each group to push<br>
the manual they are working on as hard as they can.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> For the torrent, is it the PDF output only? What are some other<br>
> examples of HTML distribution? I know the XO laptop is one example,<br>
> and at one point NGO in a box was using FM content, though I don't<br>
> know if they still are. I'd like to explore this idea further.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>Sesawe use the embed API to host the Circumvention Manual<br>
<a href="http://www.sesawe.org/-Manuals-.html" target="_blank">http://www.sesawe.org/-Manuals-.html</a><br>
<br>
NGO in a box use it also but i dont know URLs<br>
<br>
There are a few people, but not enough, using the Book Store API.<br>
<br>
adam<br>
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> Thanks,<br>
> Anne<br>
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