hi all - For the Institute's dictionary on Lulu we pay $5.81 a copy (you have to order 100 at a time to get that rate, otherwise it's 7.50 or something) and domestic ground shipping of 100 is $34. We paid a flat rate of $100 for the ISBN. <br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Michael Mandiberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mandiberg@gmail.com">mandiberg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div>I used a local NYC POD house to print the first CF. I think pricing was based on a 100 copy min run. mbe. </div><div><br></div><div>price was about ~$6 per book. (includes $100 one time setup fee) i paid for ISBN separately. and i picked up the books from them. i think there was no charge for shipping. can't rmbr. i think that i was able to avoid sales tax b/c they were for resale. can't rmbr. </div>
<div><br></div><div>i found the shiipping on Lulu to be too high for doing a large run. </div><div><br></div><div>full details below.</div><div><br></div><div>mushon, if you go w/ them, let me know b/c i argued my way out of one of the fees. i can see if i can find more info about that, if you need it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>m</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>here is the fee info (i think i did a run of 120</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><table style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">
2/22/2010 @ 11:56 AM</td><td valign="top">Job Received</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 01:57 PM</td><td valign="top">Fee Added - $130.00 - Change file size to 5.5x8.5 and photo to grascale. Plus Fix cover to print for 8.5x8.5 144 page book and create PDF file...</td>
</tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 02:38 PM</td><td valign="top">Payment Applied $737.00 - 2858206940</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 02:41 PM</td><td valign="top">Print Specs Changed</td>
</tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:19 PM</td><td valign="top">Print specifications sent to customer for approval</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:34 PM</td><td valign="top">Fee Added - $-100.00 - admin Fee waived</td>
</tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:35 PM</td><td valign="top">Print specifications approved</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:35 PM</td><td valign="top">Job moved to Printing</td>
</tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:35 PM</td><td valign="top">Status changed to: Proof Due Out - 3/1/2010</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:40 PM</td><td valign="top">Status Changed To: Electronic Proof Out - 02/22/2010</td>
</tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/23/2010 @ 02:17 PM</td><td valign="top">Payment Applied $26.75 - 2860001457</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/23/2010 @ 02:17 PM</td><td valign="top">Status Changed To: Proof Received - OK'd - 02/23/2010</td>
</tr><tr><td valign="top" width="200px">2/26/2010 @ 11:27 AM</td><td valign="top">Status Changed To: Books Ready To Be Picked Up By - 03/01/2010<br><br><br></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
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<b>14087</b></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top"><b>Title:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top">
Collaborative Futures</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top"><b>Trim Size/Printing:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top">
5.5 x 8.5" (Digital Printing)</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top"><b>Number of Pages:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top">
144 Pages</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top"><b>Preparation:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top">
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<table border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" width="100px"><b>Text:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
60# recycled offset (434ppi)</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>Cover:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
10pt C1S</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top"><b>Ink:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<table border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" width="100px"><b>Text:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
One color (black)</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>Cover:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Four color process plus layflat film lamination (4-0-0-4)</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top">
<b>Bind As:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Perfect (paperback)</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top">
<b>Inserts:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">None</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top">
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100 Copies (+/- 5%)</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top"><b>Price:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
$5.07 each</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" valign="top"><b>Note:</b></td><td style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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<div><div style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div></div></div></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 12, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Mushon Zer-Aviv wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> On 7/12/10 1:02 PM, adam hyde wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <pre dir="ltr" style="direction: ltr;">as for the postal estimation - make a fake order from lulu and it will
tell you the exact shipping cost
</pre> </blockquote> 60 copies of <a href="https://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/flutter-poetry-journal-march-2009/4981999" target="_blank">Flutter Poetry Journal March 2009</a> ($7.50 = our production costs) were $421.20 with free shipping in the US (on any order >$20).<br>
<br> :)<br> <br> As far as asking Eyebeam to sponsor books, they will order books for the Eyebeam bookstore. Getting a substantial amount of these books to spread around would not be so straight forward.<br> <br> Mushon.<br>
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