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Thanks, I'll follow these leads.<br>
I have just concluded writing another Futures chapter. I would love for
any of you to read and edit it:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.booki.cc/collaborativefutures/free-culture-in-cultures-that-are-not-free/">http://www.booki.cc/collaborativefutures/free-culture-in-cultures-that-are-not-free/</a><br>
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I think our deadline for content should be Friday. I hope we will close
all the outstanding bugs.<br>
I still want to style the glossaries differently, I think they are
still kinda ugly. Are they all in place? Is this the final content for
them?<br>
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cheers,<br>
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On 7/12/10 10:07 PM, kanarinka wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTilerfeSfJudrhDeq55khM8e91Q_JR9D2lBj1w2z@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">hi all - For the Institute's dictionary on Lulu we pay
$5.81 a copy (you have to order 100 at a time to get that rate,
otherwise it's 7.50 or something) and domestic ground shipping of 100
is $34. We paid a flat rate of $100 for the ISBN. <br clear="all">
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best,<br>
kanarinka<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Michael
Mandiberg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mandiberg@gmail.com">mandiberg@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>I used a local NYC POD house to print the first CF. I think
pricing was based on a 100 copy min run. mbe. </div>
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<div>price was about ~$6 per book. (includes $100 one time setup
fee) i paid for ISBN separately. and i picked up the books from them.
i think there was no charge for shipping. can't rmbr. i think that i
was able to avoid sales tax b/c they were for resale. can't rmbr. </div>
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<div>i found the shiipping on Lulu to be too high for doing a large
run. </div>
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<div>full details below.</div>
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<div>mushon, if you go w/ them, let me know b/c i argued my way out
of one of the fees. i can see if i can find more info about that, if
you need it.</div>
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<div>here is the fee info (i think i did a run of 120</div>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 11:56 AM</td>
<td valign="top">Job Received</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 01:57 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Fee Added - $130.00 - Change file size to
5.5x8.5 and photo to grascale. Plus Fix cover to print for 8.5x8.5 144
page book and create PDF file...</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 02:38 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Payment Applied $737.00 - 2858206940</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 02:41 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Print Specs Changed</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:19 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Print specifications sent to customer for
approval</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:34 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Fee Added - $-100.00 - admin Fee waived</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:35 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Print specifications approved</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:35 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Job moved to Printing</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:35 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Status changed to: Proof Due Out - 3/1/2010</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/22/2010 @ 03:40 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Status Changed To: Electronic Proof Out -
02/22/2010</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/23/2010 @ 02:17 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Payment Applied $26.75 - 2860001457</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/23/2010 @ 02:17 PM</td>
<td valign="top">Status Changed To: Proof Received - OK'd -
02/23/2010</td>
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<td valign="top" width="200px">2/26/2010 @ 11:27 AM</td>
<td valign="top">Status Changed To: Books Ready To Be Picked
Up By - 03/01/2010<br>
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<div>here is the orig quote:</div>
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51 East 42nd Street, Suite 1202<br>
New York, NY 10017<br>
Tel 800-621-2556<br>
Fax 212-681-8002<br>
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Subsidiary Design<br>
14 Butler Pl #82<br>
Brooklyn, NY 11238<br>
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<p align="center"><b>QUOTATION</b></p>
<p align="center"><i>It is a privilege to submit this
quotation covering your specified requirements. This proposal is
subject to Printing Industry Trade Customs<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.selfpublishing.com/production-center/printing-trade-customs.php"
target="_blank">(Click Here For Copy)</a> as specified by the National
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valign="top">Collaborative Futures</td>
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valign="top">5.5 x 8.5" (Digital Printing)</td>
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valign="top">144 Pages</td>
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style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
valign="top">Customer to furnish properly formatted PDF file for text
and PDF/application files for cover. Digital proofs to be sent by
printer for approval. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.selfpublishing.com/production-center/prepress-trade.php"
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width="100px"><b>Text:</b></td>
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style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">60#
recycled offset (434ppi)</td>
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<td
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C1S</td>
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width="100px"><b>Text:</b></td>
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style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">One
color (black)</td>
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style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Four
color process plus layflat film lamination (4-0-0-4)</td>
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Cartons</td>
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Factory (No freight included in price)</td>
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style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">To
be agreed upon (generally 3-4 weeks for paperback and 6-8 weeks for
hard cover)</td>
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style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">100
Copies (+/- 5%)</td>
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$100 per job administration handling fee will be charge in addition to
the total price.<br>
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on copyright page about CPSIA compliance. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.selfpublishing.com/production-center/cpsia.php"
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<p align="justify">This instant quote is subject to change.
Prices below and any schedules submitted are subject to change in
either price or availability of paper. Price of finished job will be
based on the cost of paper to us at the time of shipment of paper.
Most grades of paper are available to us only on the terms of "price
prevailing at time of shipment." Scheduled deliveries of paper to us
are subject to change at the discretion of paper mills. Terms: 50% of
purchase order amount with order, balance of purchase order amount
prior to printing, and final balance (adjustments for overs/unders,
corrections, and freight) prior to shipment.</p>
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51 East 42nd Street, Suite 1202<br>
New York, NY 10017<br>
800-621-2556<br>
Direct Line: 212-584-5464<br>
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<div>On Jul 12, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Mushon Zer-Aviv wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> On 7/12/10 1:02 PM, adam
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<pre dir="ltr" style="direction: ltr;">as for the postal estimation - make a fake order from lulu and it will
tell you the exact shipping cost
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60 copies of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/flutter-poetry-journal-march-2009/4981999"
target="_blank">Flutter Poetry Journal March 2009</a> ($7.50 = our
production costs) were $421.20 with free shipping in the US (on any
order >$20).<br>
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:)<br>
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As far as asking Eyebeam to sponsor books, they will order books for
the Eyebeam bookstore. Getting a substantial amount of these books to
spread around would not be so straight forward.<br>
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Mushon.<br>
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