<blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">can you check the editor, we just added a 'view' button...would this do<br></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
the trick? (adding print capabilities to that view now also)<br></blockquote><br>I think that does the trick really nicely :)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM, adam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adam@xs4all.nl">adam@xs4all.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:13 +0000, Michael McAndrew wrote:<br>
> I know what you are saying. Booki is the editing platform, where we<br>
> edit books. It's not the reading platform where we read them.<br>
><br>
> I guess the confusion crept in because<br>
> <a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm" target="_blank">http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm</a> is still being fed from the old<br>
> editing platform (and hence still has the old URLs in).<br>
><br>
> Following form that (sorry if you have answered these questions<br>
> already :) ...<br>
><br>
> * Can we publish to <a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm" target="_blank">http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm</a> from booki at<br>
> the moment?<br>
<br>
</div>not yet. next week it will be working. early jan i hope maintainers can<br>
do it, at the moment its just me or john<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> * Agree that it is confusing to have two read only versions.<br>
><br>
> Am I right in saying that 2 is a read only version of 'trunk' and 3 is<br>
> the latest stable release.<br>
<br>
</div>yes :)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> A read only version of trunk is useful when you are editing to see<br>
> what your changes will look like before publishing, but perhaps this<br>
> could be acheived by just hitting a preview / publish button and<br>
> getting a copy located in a preview-like URL, kind of like a release<br>
> candidate? So the workflow would be to go from TOC to edit without a<br>
> view stage between?<br>
<br>
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adam<br>
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><br>
> I could live without 2, but it is kind of useful. how about styling 2<br>
> so it is obviously 'unpublished'?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:11 PM, adam <<a href="mailto:adam@xs4all.nl">adam@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
> ok...so i think we might have a issue here with confusion over<br>
> the 'read<br>
> only' version of the manual in the editing section<br>
> (<a href="http://booki.flossmanuals.net" target="_blank">booki.flossmanuals.net</a>) AND the 'read' version of the manual<br>
> located<br>
> here:<br>
> <a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net" target="_blank">http://en.flossmanuals.net</a><br>
><br>
> as i am seeing it...we do need to resolve the issue of<br>
> duplicate url<br>
> name for chapters...however, i am also considering the<br>
> possibility to<br>
> turn off the 'read only' display in <a href="http://booki.flossmanuals.net" target="_blank">booki.flossmanuals.net</a><br>
><br>
> for example...<br>
><br>
> 1. we have the edit interface for civicrm:<br>
> <a href="http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/edit/" target="_blank">http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/edit/</a><br>
><br>
> 2. and then the 'read only' version:<br>
> <a href="http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/" target="_blank">http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> 3. and then the manual for users:<br>
> <a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm" target="_blank">http://en.flossmanuals.net/civicrm</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> My feeling is that we have a big potential problem with people<br>
> confusing<br>
> 2+3 ie. thinking that option 2 *is* option 3<br>
><br>
> My feeling that this is happening is enhanced when I see some<br>
> bugs being<br>
> tracked which see to also share this confusion:<br>
> <a href="http://booki-dev.flossmanuals.net/ticket/326" target="_blank">http://booki-dev.flossmanuals.net/ticket/326</a><br>
><br>
> So...while we need to fix the duplicate url issue, i think we<br>
> can also<br>
> shut down option 2 since the edit interface now also has a<br>
> 'view' button<br>
> so you can read chapters without needing to edit them<br>
><br>
> i know this is a lot to digest but if anyone can follow this<br>
> and comment<br>
> on it i would appreciate any thoughts on this<br>
><br>
> adam<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 00:29 +0000, Michael McAndrew wrote:<br>
> > sooo... you want to switch between full chapter name<br>
> and<br>
> > shorther url<br>
> > name in editor (in TOC)? is that what you want? that<br>
> is so<br>
> > crazy that<br>
> > it might just work! :)<br>
> ><br>
> > I love it when a plan comes together. yeah, the more i<br>
> think about<br>
> > it, the more i like the section/chapter hierarchy for the<br>
> civicrm<br>
> > book.<br>
> ><br>
> > so we would have<br>
> ><br>
> > fundraising/about<br>
> > fundraising/planning<br>
> > fundraising/configuring<br>
> > membership/about<br>
> > membership/planning<br>
> > membership/configuring<br>
> ><br>
> > etc.<br>
> ><br>
> > that looks pretty to me (i know, i'm sick).<br>
> ><br>
> > imagine this would look really ugly in other situations<br>
> though, so if<br>
> > we could have the flexibilidad that would be awesome :)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Aleksandar Erkalovic<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:aerkalov@gmail.com">aerkalov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Michael McAndrew<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:michaelmcandrew@thirdsectordesign.org">michaelmcandrew@thirdsectordesign.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > one problem - is this reported yet? we get a<br>
> predictable<br>
> > error in civicrm<br>
> > > because we repeat a lot of chapter titles on<br>
> purpose to<br>
> > guide people through<br>
> > > the book. for example.<br>
> > ><br>
> <a href="http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/_v/1.0/planning/" target="_blank">http://booki.flossmanuals.net/civicrm/_v/1.0/planning/</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > yes... aware of this. did not implement anything<br>
> before<br>
> > because i knew<br>
> > people will get broken links in books. was thinking<br>
> of maybe<br>
> > implementing intelligent rename tool... also, it<br>
> kind of<br>
> > waited for<br>
> > permissions. we do have permissions now (at least in<br>
> code), so<br>
> > i guess<br>
> > i could implement chapter url_name rename also.<br>
> ><br>
> > > my ideal world enhancement/solution to this would<br>
> be to have<br>
> > the option of<br>
> > > overriding chapters names on an adhoc basis and to<br>
> be able<br>
> > to switch between<br>
> > > a "section/chapter" and just plain old "chapter"<br>
> url schema<br>
> > for the default<br>
> > > chapter titles.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > thought it might be worth discussing here a bit?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > sooo... you want to switch between full chapter name<br>
> and<br>
> > shorther url<br>
> > name in editor (in TOC)? is that what you want? that<br>
> is so<br>
> > crazy that<br>
> > it might just work! :)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > aco<br>
> ><br>
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