<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">No problem. Thank you for your prompt review/feedback, Matt.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I wasn’t sure what yours or other people’s feelings were about Audacity 1.2.5; that was why I didn’t delete it. For all I knew, some people might still use it on older machines. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But I’ll be happy to take out the text "The latest stable version of Audacity for OS X can be downloaded from <a href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/mac" class="">http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/mac</a>. The latest version at the time of writing this document is Audacity 1.2.5 (Intel) or Audacity 1.2.6a (PPC).” I’m glad you pointed this text out since I overlooked it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You sound like you know a lot about Audacity; probably much more than I do. I’m also glad you mentioned that you removed Audacity 1.x references from other parts of this manual (from what I understand, it’s most of the rest of this manual, no?). I have not looked at much of the rest of this manual. But I will. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ll also be happy to delete and/or edit down the Audacity 1.2 section, since it looks like Audacity 2.2 is the version to emphasize.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will keep you posted on all this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Namaste,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Rosalind</div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:18 AM, M R <<a href="mailto:matrobnew@hotmail.com" class="">matrobnew@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Hi Rosalind:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I've reviewed your newly-added Mac install material, and i think it looks great. Very professional. As for leaving the 1.x material there, I'm of two minds (well, not really, but trying to be open-minded). It doesn't hurt (at least too much) since it's pushed to the bottom of the page; on the other hand there's no new language indicating that it's a legacy install, and instead the old material still begins with the text "<span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">The latest stable version of </span><strong style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">Audacity</strong><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class=""> for </span><strong style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">OS X</strong><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class=""> can be downloaded from </span><a title="webpage where you can download Audacity for the Mac" href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/mac" target="_blank" id="LPlnk897556" previewremoved="true" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/mac</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">. The latest version at the time of writing this document is </span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class=""><b class="">Audacity 1.2.5 (Intel) or Audacity 1.2.6a (PPC)." <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>BOTH of those statements are factually incorrect now<b class="">. </b></span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">So a user might still be confused if they read to this point.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">I personally removed all traces of 1.x reference from the parts of the manual I rewrote (which is almost everything else). I think the key question is: what is the actual use case for a user needing a fresh or first-time install of a 1.x version of Audacity, on any OS? It seems very very narrow to me. I think it's still possible to find legacy 1.x install files from the main Audacity site (though not from SourceForge), but you'd really have to hunt the Audacity site and wiki to find supporting documentation for those early versions. Certainly nothing else in our own rewritten Floss manual supports it. And even if someone already knew the software well, and just had corrupted or lost their install, it's hard to imagine why they wouldn't upgrade. There are a ton of things you can't do in 1.1 and 1.2 that you can in 2.2, including lots of file types you can't open or export, let alone read other Audacity projects. So...if it were me, I would zap the old material completely. Or at a minimum, add language indicating that it is deprecated. But your call; this is your chapter.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">Thanks again for your work on this,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class="">best,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; 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line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir="auto" class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Matt:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have now included a section for installing Audacity 2.2.1 in the chapter for Installing Audacity on OS X in the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://flossmanuals.net/" class="" id="LPlnk474550" previewremoved="true">flossmanuals.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>book on Audacity, with screen shots.</div><div id="LPBorder_GT_15158700522290.7990295194549948" style="margin-bottom: 20px; overflow: auto; width: 906px; text-indent: 0px;" class=""><table id="LPContainer_15158700522240.1814869453456467" role="presentation" cellspacing="0" style="width: 815.390625px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: relative; overflow: auto; padding-top: 20px; padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: dotted; border-top-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); 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font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">that would be great, Rosalind, thanks. Let me know if you need anything from me.</div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Matt</div><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><hr tabindex="-1" class="" style="display: inline-block; width: 894.734375px;"><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class="" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b class="">From:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Discuss <<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" class="">discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net</a>> on behalf of Rosalind Lord <<a href="mailto:rclord@seaserpent.com" class="">rclord@seaserpent.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, January 9, 2018 11:20 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" class="">discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [FM Discuss] need a Mac user for some help with Audacity manual rewrite</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-break: after-white-space;">I’d be happy to help out with this, since I’m a big Mac user, and have been one for years.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have dabbled with Audacity a little bit.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Rosalind</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 9, 2018, at 8:11 PM, M R <<a href="mailto:matrobnew@hotmail.com" class="">matrobnew@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="x_x_Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="x_x_divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" class="" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Hi folks:</div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Looking for a Mac user, ideally with some awareness of the Audacity tool, though perhaps no previous experience at all would be just as helpful. </div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I am in the process of rewriting the Audacity manual to reflect the fairly substantial changes from the initial (1.x) release to the latest (2.2.1). There are specific chapters on installation for Ubuntu and Mac OS that I cannot address, having no access at present to either OS. In addition, the chapter on Recording includes a long section on configuring your Mac for recording with Audacity (a bunch of specific steps you needn't take with Windows or Linux). Looking at the official Audacity documentation, it appears to me that much in this section no longer applies, but I can't tell for sure without Mac access. And to the extent that any of this Mac-specific recording config is still necessary, we'd need a Mac anyway to generate the new screenshots where necessary (and I'm guessing they would be, as I've had to replace every single Windows screenshot in the manual with a new one). So, any help on this score would be appreciated. The Mac and Ubuntu installation chapters, and this part of the Recording chapter, are the only parts I think can't be adequately covered with a Windows machine.</div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">thanks,</div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Matt Roberts</div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></div></div><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; 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