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<p>Shall we put these issues here. <br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues">https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues</a></p>
<p>Let me know if you can't add them for some reason. <br>
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<p>Mick<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/01/18 08:44,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mick@flossmanuals.net">mick@flossmanuals.net</a> wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi there Maren, <br>
</p>
<p>Let's get a wish list together and then see what we can solve
as a community and then as a collective come up with a check
list to see what can be solved.</p>
<p>I was hoping Martin might be up for helping and he is so that's
very cool!<br>
</p>
<p>Source fabric are very generously sponsoring FLOSS Manual's
book type 1.6 installation and their focus is on Booktype 2.0 at
the moment. So I guess the support for 1.6 will be limited but
I'm sure we can work around that till we upgrade. <br>
</p>
<p>Thanks<br>
Mick<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/01/18 22:40, Maren Hachmann
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Yes, those settings are specific to the Inkscape manual (color scheme,
fonts), and Jabier needed to leave and do other things at the time, so
it's still unfinished, unfortunately.
There's a lot on the wishlist[1] for the Inkscape beginners' guide, but
layouting/styling appears to be rather tedious (and partly impossible).
And the booktype people only ever answer you, when we talk together.
Perhaps my emails didn't get through to them? It happened twice...
Maren
[1] Start chapter with heading, then have a box with a larger tool icon,
with keyboard shortcuts and short description, if it describes a tool.
Have a specific class for inline tool icons. Have info boxes. Have a
style for keyboard shortcuts that makes them look like actual keys.
Don't produce so many empty pages. Have a proper caption for images. It
also seems that links don't carry over into the pdf (for print, I guess
that's alright, lol... but couldn't it automagically create footnotes
from them, in that case?), etc.
Am 29.01.2018 um 21:13 schrieb Mick Chesterman:
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<pre wrap="">Thanks Maren,
I've tried those settings with the Audacity manual and it looks better but still needs some tweaks.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://objavi.booktype.pro/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.29-21.10.44.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true">http://objavi.booktype.pro/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.29-21.10.44.pdf</a>
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Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] question about pdf generation on FLOSS Manuals / Booktype
Here's some additional info that one of our devs has found out while
trying things out:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/blob/master/beginners_guide/README.md" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/blob/master/beginners_guide/README.md</a>
(he's not a native English speaker)
Maren
Am 29.01.2018 um 11:13 schrieb M R:
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<pre wrap="">Mick:
I've had a quick look at your final link -- can you tell me where you
found the stuff about pdf formatting? I'm not finding it. "Editing a
Chapter" is pretty generic. And the "Tips and Tricks" section seems to
all be about CSS stuff.
While I don't love the widows and orphans, I could live with those if we
could just get a TOC in there. But I don't know how to do it other than
creating an actual chapter for the TOC, which would look totally strange
in any other format.
thanks,
Matt
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*Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] question about pdf generation on FLOSS
Manuals / Booktype
Hi Matt,
Regards your question below about pdf generation. I have to admit I know
next to nothing about this.
My focus has always been on the web side of things.
It would be good if people could share any info they have.
We are using booktype 1.6. So I did a bit of research.
There is some info on some of those aspects in the docs
CSS formatting
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/adding-css/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/adding-css/</a>
/chapter: Adding-Css / Booktype 1.6 for Authors and Publishers
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sourcefabric.booktype.pro
Everything you ever wanted to know about Sourcefabric software is here!
CSS tricks
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/some-tricks/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/some-tricks/</a>
/chapter: Some-Tricks / Booktype 1.6 for Authors and Publishers
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/some-tricks/" moz-do-not-send="true"><http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/some-tricks/></a>
sourcefabric.booktype.pro
Everything you ever wanted to know about Sourcefabric software is here!
A tip to insert Page breaks as a hack to avoid orphans and widows in pdfs
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/editing-a-chapter/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/editing-a-chapter/</a>
/chapter: Editing-A-Chapter / Booktype 1.6 for Authors and Publishers
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/editing-a-chapter/" moz-do-not-send="true"><http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/editing-a-chapter/></a>
sourcefabric.booktype.pro
Everything you ever wanted to know about Sourcefabric software is here!
Thanks
Mick
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*Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
Mick (et al):
All great stuff on your changes and review. Thanks for addressing the
table issue in the Menu chapter. And the image max-width: I didn't
even know that could be adjusted. I had just ended up making all of my
screenshots smaller so as to get around that distortion issue.
I think the ePub book proof looks really good. The pdf one doesn't seem
to handle page-breaks very gracefully (among other issues), but it
doesn't appear that there's a way to handle that at the level of the
content-edit platform itself. Nor does the pdf seem to auto-generate a
table of contents, which is a more significant failing -- but again
these must be issues common to all Floss manuals in pdf. Or maybe there
are settings you can fiddle with specific to generating PDFs on the
platform.
In the "Recording" chapter, yes I do still see my bracketed
comment/query about whether that Mac-specific config stuff was still
applicable to 2.x. Certainly we should remove the comment. But it's
still an open question to me whether we should remove any or all of the
original Mac config info that follows too--and I think that can only be
settled via experimentation with a Mac. So Rosalind or another Mac
person will have to address that. I think we decided in general that we
would *not* preserve in this manual any info pertaining only to 1.x
versions of Audacity, at least unless it was clearly flagged as such.
Mick, as to your final suggestion about moving the chapters around, I
certainly see the logic insofar as the Tutorial chapters are much more
'fun'/interesting to read (as they were to re-write). However, there is
probably a more compelling logic to walking through the UI
systematically before diving into those tutorials, since at many points
they embed the assumption that you know where to find a given menu item,
or they only use the quickest shorthand (like "Go to Edit > Tracks >
Split Track") rather than giving you screenshots or any more detailed
guidance on the UI. Further, at least in the ePub format where the menu
is readily accessible, it's easy enough for the reader to skip straight
to the tutorials if they choose to. That is another reason, though, why
having a TOC (and ideally a clickable one) is pretty vital for the PDF
version too.
Anyway, thanks again for your work on this. If Rosalind can take a look
at that Mac config stuff in the Record chapter, and if you know any
magic you can do with the PDF-generate settings, then I think we're good
to go for this iteration.
Matt
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*Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
Hi there,
I've had a chance to review this, Great work!
Just one thing I think needs to be looked at
* There's still a comment visible on Mac recording questions - it does
seem like this might need some simplification here
Here are some thing I did.
* I've added 10px padding to table which I think helps.
* I've removed a legacy issue about linux recording issues.
* I've increased the max-width of image display to 800px ,
height:Auto to help with some image distortions. This seems to be
fine on screen but doesn't take for the pdf,
I've generated pdfs and epubs here for testing too.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://objavi.booktype.pro:80/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-11.59.46.epub" moz-do-not-send="true">http://objavi.booktype.pro:80/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-11.59.46.epub</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://objavi.booktype.pro:80/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-12.00.12.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true">http://objavi.booktype.pro:80/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-12.00.12.pdf</a>
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More general feedback is that the chapter under tutorials look great.
Good work.
I would be tempted to move them right to the front of the book as a more
task focused start, and to move installation and the explanations of the
file menus in the appendix.
That way the reader can get started trying things out right away. That's
just a suggestion tho.
Thanks
Mick
On 26/01/18 00:14, M R wrote:
Hi Martin:
It does need proofreading, as its been almost completely rewritten
as part of the update to 2.x. Mick has offered to do that this
weekend, but a pair of fresh eyes probably wouldn't hurt either--as
long as Katou is reasonably expeditious, since we are trying to wrap
this up and get it republished so it can actually get to users.
Localization is another and certainly important issue: my only
working language (at the level of something like this manual) is
English, and if someone wanted to translate the revision into other
languages that would be a good thing, but also I think a separate
project. Finally, I don't know if Katou has prior expertise with
Audacity, but if so, you could mention that this manual is far from
comprehensive, esp in the 'How to' or tutorial chapters, and there's
always opportunity to add in more chapters with additional
functionality. Which would, again, though, be something we'd want
to address in a further iteration of the manual, not the imminent one.
Matt
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*Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
Hi Maren and Matt,
I've just added Katou as a user, who is interested in proofreading
and localisation, along with writing and editing. Does the Audacity
manual need proofreading?
Username: katou
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:katou@live.it" moz-do-not-send="true">katou@live.it</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:katou@live.it" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:katou@live.it></a>
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*Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
Yes, same URL - maybe something with your browser cache not refreshing?
Maren
Am 25.01.2018 um 09:04 schrieb Mick Chesterman:
> Great but strange.
>
> What URL are you testing
> I was testing here where it is still 12px for me on Firefox
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/test-chapter-for-trying-out-styling/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/test-chapter-for-trying-out-styling/</a>
/chapter: Test-Chapter-For-Trying-Out-Styling / Start with ...
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write.flossmanuals.net
Test Chapter (for trying out styling) This chapter is meant for
trying out how to best style the book. This is a keyboard shortcut:
Ctrl + A. This is a special note ...
>
> Thanks
> Mick
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>> Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: 24 January 2018 21:34
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>> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>
>> I don't see any problems, it seemst to have worked just fine, see screenshot.
>>
>> Thank you very much, Mick!
>>
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 24.01.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Rosalind Lord:
>>> Mick, would you like me to help with this? I have lots of experience
>>> coding HTML and CSS.
>>>
>>> - Rosalind
>>>
>>>> On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Mick Chesterman
>> <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk></a>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk></a>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I've added an override but it doesn't seem to have taken.
>>>> Can you start a ticket here and let's try to solve this together.
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues</a>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Mick
>>>>
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>>>>> Behalf Of Maren Hachmann
>>>>> Sent: 23 January 2018 23:16
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>>>>> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>
>>>>> Piggy-backing, as I've got a CSS change request, too:
>>>>> The font size for ordered / unordered lists is too small by default
>>>>> (12px instead of 13px for all other text in a manual), because the
>>>>> lists are not wrapped in paragraphs (which have a font size of 13),
>>>>> and inherit the body font size.
>>>>>
>>>>> As this doesn't only affect the Inkscape guide, but all books on the
>>>>> site, and all lists in them, it needs to be fixed on server level.
>>>>> Fixing each list individually, and thus having inline styles that
>>>>> might mess up exporting would be possible, but tedious and ugly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please set the font size for lists inside the content area
>>>>> to 13, too?
>>>>>
>>>>> CSS to modify, starting line 1574 in booki.css:
>>>>>
>>>>> #full-view-content p, #bookcontent p, #bookcontent ol, #bookcontent
>>>>> ul {
>>>>> font-size: 13px;
>>>>> line-height: 140%;
>>>>> margin: 1em 0;
>>>>> padding: 0;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Maren
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.01.2018 um 04:31 schrieb M R:
>>>>>> Thanks, Mick -- the weekend would be fine with me. Maybe best to
>>>>>> have someone who has some familiarity with the old book, and in
>>>>>> general with the folkways of FM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I may have mentioned this before, but there's one specific
>>>>>> formatting issue I'd like you (or whoever reviews) to consider,
>>>>>> aside from whatever else comes up. In the Menu Bar chapter there
>>>>>> is extensive use of tables to hold the menu information. As I did
>>>>>> wherever possible, here I preserved the formatting from the
>>>>>> original book, where these tables were set to zero cell padding and
>>>>>> no border. This worked well enough in the original version, when
>>>>>> each cell entry was at most a single sentence in length, and it
>>>>>> resulted in a nice clean design. However, Audacity 2.x's much more
>>>>>> extensive use of submenus forced me to make considerably longer
>>>>>> entries in some of those table cells, and I'm not certain how
>>>>>> readable the end result is for some tables. I think the solution
>>>>>> would be pretty straightforward: either adding a bit of cell padding to
>> each table, or adding a narrow border.
>>>>>> But I didn't want to go either way without consultation. I don't
>>>>>> think this issue afflicts any chapter beyond the Menu Bar ch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Chesterman <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk></a>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk></a>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 1:00 AM
>>>>>> *To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true">discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This sounds good. Can anyone step forward to have a look over the
>>>>>> Audacity manual before we do a pdf and epub print for the front page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can do it at the weekend if not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick Chesterman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Educational Innovation and Enterprise Tutor &
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EdLab Project Developer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Department of Childhood, Youth and Education Studies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manchester Metropolitan University
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> @EdLabMMU
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Discuss [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net</a>] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *M R
>>>>>> *Sent:* 18 January 2018 21:05
>>>>>> *To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true">discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks to me like other folks have finished adding in their
>>>>>> pieces to the non-Windows sections of the manual re-write, so
>>>>>> whenever you get a chance at some quality control (just because I
>>>>>> assume that someone needs to, who hasn't been a
>>>>>> writer-contributor), then we can wrap this up and get it published,
>>>>>> to start helping whoever out there might actually want to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I suppose someone else could handle the review too -- not
>>>>>> sure what the protocol is here. But I just wanted to make sure
>>>>>> this stays in the queue as a near-term task. I assume we all have
>>>>>> day jobs 😊(I'm a college professor so I was just on holiday break
>>>>>> -- that's why I could find 50 hrs or so to do the bulk of the rewrite).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Discuss <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true">discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net</a>
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>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>> on behalf of Mick
>>>>>> Chesterman <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk></a>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk></a>
>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:M.Chesterman@mmu.ac.uk></a>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2018 4:12 AM
>>>>>> *To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true">discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To exit chapter titles you just double click into the title on the
>>>>>> chapter list screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Discuss <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true">discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net</a>
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>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>> on behalf of M R
>>>>>> <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matrobnew@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">matrobnew@hotmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:matrobnew@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:matrobnew@hotmail.com></a>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:*12 January 2018 10:55
>>>>>> *To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true">discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net></a>
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>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I actually wanted to edit some of the other chapter TITLES a bit,
>>>>>> but couldn't figure out a way to do that. No big deal though, as
>>>>>> the current titles will serve. I did drag one entire chapter out
>>>>>> of the to-be-published structure and down to the bottom: that was
>>>>>> "MP3 INSTALLATION ON WINDOWS" bc it's no longer necessary to
>>>>>> install the
>>>>> LAME
>>>>>> MP3 codec separately. Just one of many ways that Audacity has
>>>>>> gotten more user-friendly over the years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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