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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Matt,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes to both of those!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I would agree that those would be in the top 20!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’ve been looking around for replacements to the Mozilla etherpad that we usually borrow for FM.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">But can’t seem to find a quick alternative and didn’t fancy doing an install of nextcloud and getting libre office installed on the
server quite yet!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So here’s a pad to put in our favourite for migration / promotion.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fm-top20
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>M R<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 November 2018 22:15<br>
<b>To:</b> discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FM Discuss] Archiving most of the books on write.flossmanuals.net - and how to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Mick:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Just now paying attention to this thread. Obviously I think my Shotcut manual should make the top 20
</span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif;color:black">😊</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">, as it's an all-new write from early this year (and I'd certainly argue that Shotcut is one of two leading opensource
vid editors).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">And I don't think anyone would dispute that Audacity is easily the leading open-source sound editor. I know someone wanted to do an(other) big re-write of that one earlier this year, on top of my
update; not sure if that ever happened as I seem to still see my version on the site; but in any case Audacity surely makes the cut for the migration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Let me know if there's anything I should be doing on these to assist.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Matt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Discuss <<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net">discuss-bounces@lists.flossmanuals.net</a>>
on behalf of Mick Chesterman <<a href="mailto:mick@flossmanuals.net">mick@flossmanuals.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 19, 2018 2:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net">discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FM Discuss] Archiving most of the books on write.flossmanuals.net - and how to do it.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On 14/11/2018 21:53, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">hmm, i'm not sure about that one either. is there a way to see which are the most viewed?
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Not really, :(<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Also, thinking about it a bit it may be more tactical to make a decision based on what is most likely to attract editors and avoid duplication of effort and help build on
the existing community. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I was also thinking that the manuals that seem to date best are the ones for established media / art / sound making tools rather than for Interent Security ones.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">For example the one on digital art foundations has probably dated better than the ones on Interent Security.
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<a href="http://write.flossmanuals.net/digital-foundations/introduction/" id="LPlnk618330">http://write.flossmanuals.net/digital-foundations/introduction/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:15.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666">Introduction This book was written by two artist educators who teach digital art and design studio foundation classes.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Certainly, it's a great time to nominate one or more manuals to "look after" if you are friendly member of the FM community and would like to maintain a manual by doing some
updates or even by providing direction to some of the many volunteers we get. <br>
Just email me if with a manuals of choice if you are interested in doing that. <o:p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks<br>
Mick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">probably the UpStage manual doesn't need to be archived, as we have old versions on the website (i think ... we used to ... ) & i don't think anyone out there is using the
old versions anyway. & hopefully in the not too distant future we are going to have a completely shiny new improved platform! :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">h : )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On 14.11.2018 02:15,
<a href="mailto:mick@flossmanuals.net" id="LPlnk772479">mick@flossmanuals.net</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hi there,
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This was a point that came up at the last FLOSS Manuals meeting.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The proposal was to archive most of the FLOSS Manuals content in the process of moving to a new Booktype 2.x installation apart from active or most valued ones , and for
me to come up with a suggestion on how to do that. <br>
I've got a suggestion which is... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pick at top 20 of manuals which we would like to promote and try to keep updated.
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Migrate those and any that have changed significantly since the last migration to the current write.flossmanuals.net<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Update the web links of older manuals to point to the relevant part of
<a href="http://archive.flossmanuals.net/" id="LPlnk503674">http://archive.flossmanuals.net/</a> for example one like
<a href="http://archive.flossmanuals.net/ffmpeg2theora/" id="LPlnk194559">http://archive.flossmanuals.net/ffmpeg2theora/</a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I actually think this could be a really positive thing, we get loads of hits still, and lots of requests to get involved as volunteers but it's not always clear where to
get them started. <br>
I think this kind of focus could really help. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I'm not sure the best way to pick the top 20 odd manuals however, any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks<br>
Mick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:helen@creative-catalyst.com" id="LPlnk761478">helen@creative-catalyst.com</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.upstage.org.nz" id="LPlnk742806">http://www.upstage.org.nz</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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