[FM Discuss] [IAEP] Book sprint aug 16-23

[Anne Gentle]

Walter, this is a perfect start - since I haven't run the 8.20 version yet,
this is a great starting point for me, and it contains good examples of how
to give hardware hints. Thanks for sharing. I'll be able to walk through
http://en.flossmanuals.net/olpc_simple with your non-OLPC example in mind,
thanks.

Anne

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
wrote:

> > David or Walter, do you have time for a Skype chat this week?
> I'm available most any time tomorrow (Thursday).
>
> > Or shall we talk about this at a Thursday con call? Any time but 10 am
> CST or  4 pm CST works for me.
> Ditto.
>
> BTW, I've made a rough draft of the 8.20 version of Sugar
> getting-started in a somewhat non-OLPC-centric way:
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter/sandbox
>
> -walter
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Anne Gentle <annegentle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi again everyone -
> > I'm feeling déjà vu. :) We had the same discussions last year trying to
> meet
> > a ship deadline and some volunteers got really burned out trying to get a
> > finalized English version in time for about 8 translations... the effort
> was
> > intense, but not long lasting, and now here we are again. :)
> >
> > I agree that we meet the Aug 10th deadline by distinctly defining what it
> is
> > that ships on that date. I would say that a PDF or HTML English version
> that
> > ships with Sugar is a good goal for starters. How can I find out what
> needs
> > to be different about the current manual? What are our priorities for
> > additional content? Which Activities are highest priority? David or
> Walter,
> > do you have time for a Skype chat this week? Or shall we talk about this
> at
> > a Thursday con call? Any time but 10 am CST or  4 pm CST works for me.
> >
> > Adam, I'll take a first crack at creating chapters, and I was just going
> to
> > ask you how best to structure the Activity docs/chapters in a way you
> think
> > they'd work well in FM... do you have the time for a Skype chat after
> your
> > book sprint work is done today? (so sorry this activity is overlapping so
> > much! You must be getting whiplash!) :)
> >
> > Could we use the http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DocumentationTeam page to
> > start mapping out who could take which chapters?
> >
> > Here are my ideas, and I'll also put this on the wiki page
> > * Write Getting started guide updates for the changes in the build,
> ensuring
> > the hardware dependencies are lifted.
> > * Write Activities individual chapters (or books?) heavily
> tutorial-scenario
> > based. Christoph, thanks so much for working on Record.
> >
> > Audience is kids and teachers. While programmer doc is listed on the
> > documentation page, I think FM has a different audience in mind. Let me
> know
> > if that needs to change.
> >
> > Please let me know if that's enough focus for now and I'll start building
> > scaffolding after getting clarity at Thursday's meeting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Anne
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:07 AM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> my preference is that we bite off something digestable....
> >>
> >> I would recommend that we meet the aug deadline for shipping the docs by
> >> doing work on irc and...shock horror....the web! ;) we have the
> >> tools...we could then structure docs in fm (floss manuals) and assign
> >> chapters all via irc/email. Anne knows the tools well and can set up the
> >> manuals according to spec and then we start writing immediately...some
> >> of us could contribute also from Wikimania (I will be there as I expect
> >> Mako will be and there surely will be an OLPC/Sugar presence like last
> >> year)
> >>
> >> then the booksprint still happens but it is a concentrated blast, and an
> >> effort to consolidate the working collaborations to better ensure
> >> ongoing commitment to the docs and a good opportunity to get everyone
> >> heading in the same direction
> >>
> >> also... can I suggest that we keep this on the FM Discuss Mailing list
> >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net
> >>
> >> I think we are dropping people out of the conversation accidentally with
> >> these cc lists.
> >>
> >> adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 22:21 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Seth Woodworth <seth at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:38 PM, David Farning
> >> > > <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Seems like we have support for the idea of a book sprint.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Considerations:
> >> > >> Time - Version .82 will be released Aug 10th. Is it worth it to try
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> hit that release date?  As much as I would like to say yes, we
> should
> >> > >> not push things too fast.  My key goal in setting up the sprint is
> to
> >> > >> create a _concrete_ event where people can come together to and
> help
> >> > >> OLPC.  Let's take our time and use this as a test run at community.
> >> > >
> >> > > As much as I would like a complete set of documentation for Sugar,
> if
> >> > > we can
> >> > > get the event done sooner it can ship on thousands of G1G1 machines.
> >> > >  This
> >> > > is an important consideration.  Can we make a list of who could make
> >> > > it to
> >> > > Boston in a very short period of time for a Sprint and decide from
> >> > > there?
> >> >
> >> > Let's look at it another way. How much needs to be done to get
> >> > something ready for this release and shipment? How inaccurate is the
> >> > current manual?
> >> >
> >> > Can we do that task online, starting right away, and then have the
> >> > sprint for whatever is appropriate after that? I can rearrange my own
> >> > schedule somewhat to accommodate an important rush project.
> >> >
> >> > >> Location - Seth mentioned the availability of space at the OLPC's
> >> > >> offices.  That would be great if it were possible.  The marketing
> >> > >> angle
> >> > >> of volunteers coming together to olpc's offices for a sprint would
> be
> >> > >> great.
> >> > >
> >> > > One way or another, locations will be had here in Boston.  Kim
> >> > > approved
> >> > > support for the event at the 1cc office so long as both conference
> >> > > rooms
> >> > > aren't booked.  And even spilling over onto MIT isn't that big of
> >> > > deal.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The Big question is would Adam and Anne feel comfortable running
> the
> >> > >> sprint on OLPC's turf.  Adam and Anne are the domain experts.   We
> >> > >> need
> >> > >> to give them the room to leverage the OLPC effort and enthusiasm
> >> > >> against
> >> > >> FM's experience.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Participantes -
> >> > >> Anne Gentle - Texas
> >> > >> Adam Hyde  - Netherlands
> >> > >> David Farning - Wisconsin
> >> > >> Walter Bender - East coast
> >> > >> Greg Dekoenigsberg - ?
> >> > >> Others - ??
> >> > >
> >> > > Might I also add Benjamin Mako Hill [Boston] (author of the Official
> >> > > Ubuntu
> >> > > book and sometime OLPC employee), and Ron Hale-Evans [Seattle]
> >> > > (technical
> >> > > author via O'Reily, Fellow OLPC/Sugar nut and Linux Foundation
> >> > > Employee).
> >> > > Personally I've been the editor of my college newspaper and am
> >> > > familiar with
> >> > > explaining Sugar internals in a non-technical way.
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I will gladly step aside to let a better writer take my spot;)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Funding - Between $500 - $1250 per person.
> >> > >> I'll do the leg work, but cold calls from dfarning won't be worth
> >> > >> much;(
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Talking to book publishers-- Is FM interested in going that
> >> > >> direction?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> How about setting a tentative date for Aug 16-23?
> >> > >
> >> > > I would still like to consider *some* event sooner with the
> >> > > expectation of
> >> > > getting it into the 8.2 build.
> >> > >
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