[FM Discuss] FM Transmission / web chat, irc gateway /

[adam hyde]

On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 23:09 +0100, Aleksandar Erkalovic wrote:
> hi,
> 
> so we talked in amsterdam about our current chat system and how to improve it.
> also, adam started to bitch more and more so i decided to play a bit
> with what i was talking
> about (twisted framework and some of the things i did before). so i
> decided to send
> this to discuss and not just the tech list so more people could think
> about the new
> system.
> 

oh no! its terrible ! (just living up to aco's opinion of me ;)

i think the chat looks amazing. the opportunity to develop this into a
tool for book sprints with status updates of edits etc never occurred to
me...it really opens the door to a lot of things...

very very cool

:)

adam


> anywho, FM Transmission (drum rolls please) is so far just a demo but
> i look into it
> as a foundation for our future chat system. because of some technical
> issues (and my
> lack of time) it is not so easy to just switch it with current chat
> but will try to do something
> for the Firefox sprint.
> 
> if you go to web page http://www.binarni.net:8080/htdocs/ you will get
> web interface
> for the chat. chat is connected with irc channel #flossmanuals
> (irc.freenode.net server).
> so it does not matter if you are using your favorite irc client or web
> browser anymore.
> you can go to irc and web page at the same time, try to chat and see
> how it looks like.
> on the irc channel side, irc bot called "fm" is sending the messages
> for the web users.
> we have _one_ irc user for _many_ web users. chat supports just the
> basic messages
> (user join, user left, public message send to channel) but other
> things will come very soon.
> 
> system is adapted to flossmanuals, but it will be easy to use it
> together with other
> twiki systems or separately. small trivia.... "transmission" is title
> of joy division song.
> 
> this chat system is something i wanted to implement some 6 years ago
> for the wiki
> system i was developing in mi2 so i have lots of ideas and some
> thoughts what it could
> have. soooo...
> 
>    soon to be implemented
>    --------------------------------
>       - authentification will go trough the twiki system. guest
> users... will think of something.
>          right now users get names according to template Guest+<number>
>       - other messages and events. no private messages for now between
> web and irc.
>       - right now we sync every 5 seconds but i plan to implement full COMET
>         communication that will enable web clients to get messages immediately.
> 
>    will be implemented
>    --------------------------
>       - we will have smaller version and full size client
>       - more then one channel. so each "book" can have a seperate
> public channel for instance
>       - private messages between users
>       - file attachments. once uploaded other users (web and irc) will
> be able to download it
>       - notifications from the flossmanuals on the channel. for
> instance "user XY has changed
>         the status of the book Inkscape to 'published'". basicly info
> that is usefull to people
>         during the sprint...
>       - history/logs of the conversations. can be browsable trough the
> web and can be
>         saved as a wiki page or something
>       - gateways to other networks except irc. would be cool to be
> notified on some other network that people
>         have comed for the sprint and etc... twisted has support for
> some protocols but i am not so sure
>         how popular are some of them today.
>       - plugin system (text formaters, filters...)
> 
> so, please test it a bit. think about it. think what would you like to
> see, what you think we should implement
> and tell me. be aware this is just 0.0.10 version :) also, be aware i
> will start and stop the service without
> warning.
> 
> Aco
> 
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