[FM Discuss] UI Challenge

adam adam at xs4all.nl
Mon Aug 30 22:51:23 PDT 2010


On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 07:39 +0200, adam wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 11:58 +1200, Martin Kean wrote:
> > Fork yes!
> > This is not just a great idea - I see it as the future and will replace InDesign et al.
> 
> :)))
> 
> > 
> > I think the online page design tool might look a bit like the Try It Yourself tool, with CSS code in a left-hand window, and a 'page preview' in a right-hand window.
> > There might be check boxes and drop-down menu boxes eventually, but adjusting CSS code in its own window could be a starting point?
> > So would the OBJAVI! page be built on to include more functionality?
> 
> you mean like this?:
> http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_default
> 

i should have also used this as an example (you mean something like this
marv?):
http://en.flossmanuals.net/remix

try creating a remix and then choose 'html' in the 'export as'
option...change the css and click 'update preview'....

...that aco...i would want to call him clever but i think he already has
that opinion about himself ;)

adam





> i think this could work but...im not sure it is possible to render the
> page in html as it would be seen in PDF...or is it? could it be possible
> to render html and show page breaks where the page breaks would be in
> the pdf (for example)?...
> 
> aco thought about rendering an example page from the book being worked
> on and enable the booki user to download this. however...it would be
> preferable to do this only in the browser if it was possible...but not
> sure it is...
> 
> regardless. looks like at least you and Rebecca are interested in
> this...want to try a few things and send more ideas/screenshots etc back
> to the list? :)
> 
> (objavi options will be extended over time but not my much for now)
> 
> adam
> 
> 
> 
> > Nartin
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> > From: discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net [discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] On Behalf Of adam hyde [adam at flossmanuals.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2010 4:42 a.m.
> > To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> > Subject: [FM Discuss] UI Challenge
> > 
> > okedoke....
> > 
> > 
> > so, the series of challenge posts asking for help with css, python, js
> > etc has been really super. we have solved a lot of things this way with
> > advice and help from the community (thats you :)
> > 
> > so...big big thanks to everyone that has come to the assistance of booki
> > through these mails :)
> > 
> > so...i thought i would take this a step further and put rather a bigger
> > challenge on the table. I have stepped back and observed how Booki has
> > been used for pdf design - seeing how people (ie. Mushon and the RDC)
> > are solving these issues. There has been some pretty cool things come
> > out of this. Mushon in particular has been very active on the dev list
> > (http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/booki-dev-flossmanuals.net)
> > and helped us work out a lot of issues AND he has made some big strides
> > forward with experimenting with CSS and book design using Booki/Objavi
> > 
> > RDC and James are also doing great exploratory work in this area as you
> > have seen through the posts to the list.
> > 
> > One thing that strikes me, is that I think we need to consider providing
> > an interface to assist people design pdf using the booki export tab...
> > 
> > im not sure what this would look like...but i think its clear that both
> > Mushon and RDC have struggled a little coming to terms with what is and
> > isnt possible using CSS for designing books and so it seems somehow we
> > need to provide support for this process with a more 'intuitive'
> > interface...
> > 
> > any ideas?...anyone want to take a stab at some interface proposals and
> > put some images online (or a 'dummy' static webpage as an example of the
> > UI)...
> > 
> > adam
> > 
> > 
> > 
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