[FM Discuss] Modified PDF for MYOSA

[Rebecca Hargrave Malamud]

Hi, James -

The RDC has been supporting the FLOSS Manual/Booki paradigm as well. I 
think both are wonderful pieces of software.

 >What kind of page breaks are you seeing?

I am seeing images split, blank pages, and the premature section 
headings as you describe. Christopher sent a couple of screen shots 
(http://ruraldesigncollective.org/lab/ebook/ebookcss1.JPG and 
http://ruraldesigncollective.org/lab/ebook/ebookcss2.JPG), but I don't 
think they are indicative of the screenshot problem - we will be working 
more today, and I will post results.

Since the CSS for the onscreen version does not match the output in FM 
and Booki (http://booki-dev.flossmanuals.net/ticket/215), we decided 
very early  in our workflow to edit the book in SIGIL (the WYSIWYG 
editor mentioned in your book) - this aids the design process, however 
we did not alter the HTML in order to achieve the best possible result 
by separating the style from content. As the book can constantly be in 
flux, this is the correct approach to this problem ... and this is how 
the FM/OBJAVI world is structured.

So, I am not sure if having two versions of the book is the right answer ...

We are obviously going to need to freeze the edition at some point to 
finesse details such as copyfitting, widows, orphans, page breaks, etc. 
And then, whenever substantial changes are made, re-check the book to 
make sure it flows correctly.

Designing for online display and print has never been the same thing - 
so linking the two worlds together is an interesting experiment indeed! :-)

Rebecca Malamud




James Simmons wrote:
> Rebecca,
>
> What kind of page breaks are you seeing?  Are there images being split
> across pages?  If there are I probably *should* resize them for better
> results.  I use several full page images where a cropped image might
> do just as well.  What I saw in MYOSA that I didn't care for was
> section headings at the bottom of a page where the section began on
> the following page.  Also, I had a table entry centered vertically
> that split the word in half vertically on a page boundary.  I *think*
> I got around that by aligning the text vertically.
>
> I might be able to force a page break before a section begins using
> styles.  I haven't tried it.
>
> I'm not familiar with Prince XML.  If you want to consider the RDC
> edition of the book a separate production from the FM edition so you
> can use Prince XML I don't think anyone would mind.  You could even
> put that edition on Lulu if you wanted to, I guess.  For myself, since
> my book is endorsing Booki I'm going to prepare books for the FM book
> shop only using FM tools.
>
> James Simmons
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Rebecca Hargrave Malamud
> <webchick at invisible.net> wrote:
>   
>> Hello -
>>
>> Christopher and were successful in our OBJAVI experiments yesterday using
>> the @font-face method and uploading the fonts to the Rural Design Collective
>> server. I was somewhat surprised that these free font repositories don't
>> allow linking to the actual free fonts especially since there is a precedent
>> for linking to Javascript libraries for online display - that will prohibit
>> use for many without their own method to upload fonts.
>>
>> So it looks like we will be using Booki after all! I am a little concerned
>> about the unsightly page breaks since there are so many screen captures in
>> the book. I know we would have more control if we use PrinceXML rather than
>> attempt to size images in FLOSS Manuals to get better results (something no
>> doubt James would not want us to do since it would interfere with his
>> output).
>>
>> So we still have the illustrations to upload, plus some screen captures -
>>     
>>> i think actually its every free font in the world...
>>>
>>>       
>> That would be impossible to do ... of course, I used to have a sticker on my
>> computer that said "Whoever Dies With The Most Fonts Wins" :-)
>>
>> Rebecca Malamud
>>
>>
>>     
>>> if you want to use non-free fonts you can use @font-face to define them
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-fonts/#the-font-face-rule
>>>
>>> you need to out the fonts online and link to them with this method.
>>>
>>> as discussed before however, im not sure this actually works...it
>>> should, but we havent tested it...so if you try it then report back with
>>> the results :)
>>>
>>> adam
>>>
>>>       
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