[FM Discuss] booksprint on collaboration in Peru - and funding/licensing question/problem

[adam hyde]

hey Kiko,

ah man...these universities...the irony. I feel for you. 

we cant put it in FM if it has an 'all rights reserved' tag... you could
try using booki...we will use it for the Transmediale book sprint...but
even then Booki is really for the creation of open content...since its
an alpha install we could look the other way and see it as a test...if
we did this we could not offer support however and before we 'launched'
booki you would need to either open the content or remove it from
booki.cc...also, since booki is alpha, if booki broke in your sprint i
cant offer any guarantees we can help in time 

if you convince them to use at least a cc license we could put it in
fm...i dont like doing this, but its a good project and i'd like to help
if at all possible...or you could tell them 'yes we will give the copy
right to the university', but just dont tell them under what license ;)
bruhaha

adam



On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 10:06 -0500, kikomayorga wrote:
> Hi Adam, hi everyone!
> first,, my new year greetings to all of you,,
> then,, 
> 
> As i had previously written to Adam, on January 22nd we are starting
> in Lima, Perú a booksprint on "collaboration experiences in Perú". 
> 
> The sprint is inspired by a peculiar statistic from 2008, saying that
> "peru has the highest entrepreneurship rate in the world". The sad
> truth behind that statistic is that peruvians are not oriented to
> entrepreneurship because of beeing able to devise any special
> opportunity, but rather that people need to choose working "on their
> own" because of unconfidence, built up over a long history of
> corruptancy, violence and diffuse sense of identity.   
> 
> So, the aim of the booksprint is to collect experiences of success and
> difficulties for collaboration among individuals, companies and
> government.
> 
> But one "problem" has appeared as we started looking for funding. A
> private university shows to be very interested in funding our
> publication, but they´re asking for exclusive rights over the
> content... At that point i suppose this first booksprint we are
> organizing couldn´t be "powered by" or "hosted" on the flossmanuals
> platform, or am i wrong? As i read the FM FAQ, it says that the
> content should be published under GPL... But sadly the lawyers working
> for the university in discussion here still haven´t ever needed to
> understand what "GPL" means (and that could take months!). We tried to
> explain to them what the spirit of the sprint was,, that the content
> should be available to everyone, (since it´s about usefull collective
> learnings on collaboration). But they won´t fund the writing if the
> content is not licensed to them.. thats the way they fund research
> pubications....
> 
> Of course we are deeply interested in the FLOSS ideals, expanded to
> other subjects different from software, and we do our best to find
> sponsors understanding and supporting expansion of FLOSS concepts...
> But it seems in the third world it´s still hard to make
> people/organizations change their minds.... I´m sure we will be able
> at some point to find more suitable funding for "free" production. But
> sadly not at this time.
> 
> So the question i open here is if it is possible to use the FLOSS
> manuals tools for editing a book that won´t be GPL ... please don´t
> take me bad,, i´m just asking and sharing our problem here,, it would
> be very usefull for us as for learning to know the platform... I guess
> it could still be possible to include in the writing "inspired by
> FLOSS manuals",,  but if it´s not possible this time, i guess we can
> wait for the propper moment... 
> 
> thanks,
> Kiko  
> 
> 
> pd: As i think on GPL or CC, i wonder if it´s possible to include "the
> figure of the sponsor" as part of the license, something like
> CC-made-possible-by "xxx",, i don´t know much on licensing so i´d
> really appreciate if someone can direct me to some info / example on
> that...   : )
> 
>  
> 
> 


-- 
Adam Hyde
Founder FLOSS Manuals
German mobile : + 49 177 4935122
Email : adam at flossmanuals.net
irc: irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals

"Free manuals for free software"
http://www.flossmanuals.net/about