[FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
Rebecca Hargrave Malamud
webchick at invisible.net
Wed Nov 10 09:36:13 PST 2010
> so a booki mobile update.
>
> some photos here:
> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
Cool !!! - It sounds like we should start a BookMobile network :-)
(BTW, you can alleviate your duplexing problem by building in R/L page
gutter margin in your CSS. Of course, this is one of those details
that one always has to learn the hard way through at least one live
demo <g> )
Rebecca Malamud
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http://ruraldesigncollective.org/
On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:50 AM, discuss-request at lists.flossmanuals.net
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> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:23:20 +0100
> From: adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>
> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> Subject: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
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> hey all,
>
> so a booki mobile update.
>
> some photos here:
> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
>
> well...i have to say this was probably a crazy idea from the start. i
> was motivated largely because a mobile book producing lab is just a
> great idea and partly from frustration because we have been trying to
> work with Drumbeat for some time and it was not going anywhere. i did
> not and do not understand this since all the aims of drumbeat coincide
> with what we do however we have had no support from them. in addition
> there are groups that have not tried to work with drumbeat and have
> had
> a huge profiling at the Drumbeat events. The Free Knowledge Academy is
> one such example - they got major billing at the event where we were
> not
> even initially invited.
>
> so apart from loving the idea of the book mobile i was also
> frustrated.
> i think DB should work with us however there is a blockage
> somewhere. i
> didnt want to give up so the book mobile was a last trial to
> convince DB
> they should take us seriously.
>
> there are many reasons why i want DB to come our way and work with us.
> its not just ideological (a shared ideology) but thats a big part of
> it. it is also because they have the power to profile projects which
> would help us tremendously and they also have the power to fund
> which is
> also interesting to us. also if i was to write the aims of Drumbeat
> down
> on paper they would coincide with ours pretty well and it just makes
> sense to me to make alliances when the match looks good. its about
> creating synergies as much as anything.
>
> on top of all this the book mobile (or now called the 'booki
> mobile') is
> just a good idea. so many times i tell people about booki and they get
> it conceptually but when i give them a book they are amazed. that last
> step is important and now the booki mobile can do just that. take the
> technology to the people so they understand its intent and utility.
> sure
> its not the optimum way to do things, we also need to improve PR and
> other outreach channels but it is one very inspiring channel for us to
> show what we do. additionally i now have the equipment to make books
> for
> 1-2 euro to send to reviewers etc to get their attention. previously i
> had been doing this by buying lulu.com copies of our books and
> shipping
> them without letters etc directly from lulu to the reviewers. this is
> costly as lulu is expensive and it is not good to 'cold call' like
> this.
> buying lulu books and having them rerouted through my home address,
> adding a letter, and sending on is also just a stupid idea. so now i
> can
> make books and send them directly and cheaply.
>
> anyways. so with 6 weeks to go until the DB fest i wrote some
> sponsorship proposals for the book mobile. i sent them away expecting
> negative replies and instead got a +ve response from francophonie.org.
> Yay!!! however that meant i needed to get more $ else we had only
> 1/3 of
> the money required. the total cost of the project on paper was approx
> 10,000 euro but in fact the cost was about 12000 and we got about 8000
> in sponsorship.
>
> so, i wrote to civicrm and they said yes :) and also iCommons and
> Mozilla came in. thats cool. so all that came in with about 2 weeks
> until the fest. i was of course also moving house and i had 2 sprints
> and several presentations about fm before the event. so it wasnt easy
> but i researched the equipment and found it all, purchased it, and
> threw
> it in the booki mobile (vw t4 van) and drove it 2000 km to barcelona
> (took 3 days).
>
> the equipment consisted of:
> 1x Fastback 15XS binder (second hand from Munich)
> 1x Samsung 2850 duplex lazer printer (black and white) (new)
> 1x Ideal 3915-90 paper cutter (second hand from Berlin)
> 1 x t4 vw van (second hand from berlin)
> 2 x laptops (mine)
> 1 x robocraft cutter (new)
> heaps of paper
> scissors, cutting boards, rulers, power cables etc
>
> we drove the van and all in it to the festival and set up immediately.
> the first day was about setting up the site (the fest was 2 days) and
> the second day was about producing the books. that was in the theory
> and
> it worked except that it took a lot longer to test everything and
> refine
> the workflow. essentially all worked (except an inkjet printer that I
> managed to break by trying to set it up too quick) except we had a
> huge
> problem with the duplex printing. duplex printing means a printer can
> take a page print one side then suck it back and print the other side.
> the big issue here was that the duplex printing did not print the
> front
> and back pages in the same position. this was frustrating and we
> spent a
> long time working this out. Janet was there trouble shooting and she
> worked it out. essentially we had to use the printer as a
> 'normal' (sans
> duplex) printer, print all the even sides take them out flip them over
> and then print the odd sides on the back. this was a stupid way to do
> things but the only way that worked.
>
> we used the Booki User Guide as the example book although we also
> made a
> few other books for those that came to the booki mobile and wanted to
> make a book :)
>
> so. the feedback was tremendous. although we spent much of the time
> working out the systems i actually spent a lot of my time talking to
> people that were interested in the process, floss manuals, booki, and
> the booki mobile. so much time actually that it slowed down the set
> up!
> still, it was good to get people excited and involved so that was ok.
>
> in the end we made some books and they looked beautiful.
> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/book.png
> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/interior.png
>
> then we packed up, spent a tired day in barcelona and drove back to
> berlin (it took 28hours + one sleep stop to get back).
>
> so. the booki mobile did what it had to do in terms of actually making
> books and also it inspired alot of people. it will also have a
> tremendous future. those aspects i consider a success. however i dont
> think DB cared and in my own mind i have given up on Drumbeat. its
> only
> so long that we can knock at the DB door and be ignored before we get
> the idea we are not wanted. i think it is worthwhile trying to win the
> DB open web award for profiling reasons but apart from that i think
> its
> not interesting anymore to pursue the DB channel.
>
>
> so, the bookimobile lives and its a cool thing :) next i will blog
> about
> it, send pr, send sponsorship reports and look for funding for running
> costs...
>
> :)
>
> adam
>
> --
> vote for booki in the Open Web Awards!
>
> Booki (the latest FM project - http://www.booki.cc - a collaborative
> publishing platform) is in the final of the Open Web Awards.
> Great! We are 1 of 3 projects. If we win we get 5000 which we will use
> to do a code sprint on a tropical island somewhere ;)
>
> please please please register :
> http://www.drumbeat.org/user/register
>
> and vote for us:
> http://www.drumbeat.org/project/open-web-publishing
>
> and pass this around!!!! :)
>
> Adam Hyde
> Founder FLOSS Manuals &
> Booki Project Manager
>
> Contact Information
> German mobile : + 49 177 4935122
> Email : adam at flossmanuals.net
> irc : irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals
>
>
> "Free manuals for free software"
> http://www.flossmanuals.net/about
>
> Free Software for making Free Books
> http://www.booki.cc/
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:33:30 -0500
> From: "John Rigdon" <jrigdon at researchonline.net>
> To: <discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
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>> hey all,
>>
>> so a booki mobile update.
>
> What equipment / process are you using to perfect bind the books? I
> see you
> have a paper cutter similar to mine, which would be a MAJOR pain to
> lug
> around, but necessary to have at a show, but I have not come up with a
> workable / portable perfect binding solution.
>
> I use a liquid glue myself which takes up to 6 hours to dry, but I
> expect a
> hot glue process may work, but not be as strong in the end.
>
> John Rigdon
> www.ngohaiti.com
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:38:33 +0100
> From: helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com>
> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
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> wow adam, that is an amazing mission! well done! :)
>
> stop knocking on the doors that don't open & go through the ones that
> do; who knows what drumbeat's agenda really is (underneath it all
> there's bound to be a profit-motive) - if they're not interested
> they're
> clearly stupid!
>
> h : )
>
> On 10/11/10 1:23 PM, adam hyde wrote:
>> hey all,
>>
>> so a booki mobile update.
>>
>> some photos here:
>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
>>
>> well...i have to say this was probably a crazy idea from the start. i
>> was motivated largely because a mobile book producing lab is just a
>> great idea and partly from frustration because we have been trying to
>> work with Drumbeat for some time and it was not going anywhere. i did
>> not and do not understand this since all the aims of drumbeat
>> coincide
>> with what we do however we have had no support from them. in addition
>> there are groups that have not tried to work with drumbeat and have
>> had
>> a huge profiling at the Drumbeat events. The Free Knowledge Academy
>> is
>> one such example - they got major billing at the event where we
>> were not
>> even initially invited.
>>
>> so apart from loving the idea of the book mobile i was also
>> frustrated.
>> i think DB should work with us however there is a blockage
>> somewhere. i
>> didnt want to give up so the book mobile was a last trial to
>> convince DB
>> they should take us seriously.
>>
>> there are many reasons why i want DB to come our way and work with
>> us.
>> its not just ideological (a shared ideology) but thats a big part of
>> it. it is also because they have the power to profile projects which
>> would help us tremendously and they also have the power to fund
>> which is
>> also interesting to us. also if i was to write the aims of Drumbeat
>> down
>> on paper they would coincide with ours pretty well and it just makes
>> sense to me to make alliances when the match looks good. its about
>> creating synergies as much as anything.
>>
>> on top of all this the book mobile (or now called the 'booki
>> mobile') is
>> just a good idea. so many times i tell people about booki and they
>> get
>> it conceptually but when i give them a book they are amazed. that
>> last
>> step is important and now the booki mobile can do just that. take the
>> technology to the people so they understand its intent and utility.
>> sure
>> its not the optimum way to do things, we also need to improve PR and
>> other outreach channels but it is one very inspiring channel for us
>> to
>> show what we do. additionally i now have the equipment to make
>> books for
>> 1-2 euro to send to reviewers etc to get their attention.
>> previously i
>> had been doing this by buying lulu.com copies of our books and
>> shipping
>> them without letters etc directly from lulu to the reviewers. this is
>> costly as lulu is expensive and it is not good to 'cold call' like
>> this.
>> buying lulu books and having them rerouted through my home address,
>> adding a letter, and sending on is also just a stupid idea. so now
>> i can
>> make books and send them directly and cheaply.
>>
>> anyways. so with 6 weeks to go until the DB fest i wrote some
>> sponsorship proposals for the book mobile. i sent them away expecting
>> negative replies and instead got a +ve response from
>> francophonie.org.
>> Yay!!! however that meant i needed to get more $ else we had only
>> 1/3 of
>> the money required. the total cost of the project on paper was approx
>> 10,000 euro but in fact the cost was about 12000 and we got about
>> 8000
>> in sponsorship.
>>
>> so, i wrote to civicrm and they said yes :) and also iCommons and
>> Mozilla came in. thats cool. so all that came in with about 2 weeks
>> until the fest. i was of course also moving house and i had 2 sprints
>> and several presentations about fm before the event. so it wasnt easy
>> but i researched the equipment and found it all, purchased it, and
>> threw
>> it in the booki mobile (vw t4 van) and drove it 2000 km to barcelona
>> (took 3 days).
>>
>> the equipment consisted of:
>> 1x Fastback 15XS binder (second hand from Munich)
>> 1x Samsung 2850 duplex lazer printer (black and white) (new)
>> 1x Ideal 3915-90 paper cutter (second hand from Berlin)
>> 1 x t4 vw van (second hand from berlin)
>> 2 x laptops (mine)
>> 1 x robocraft cutter (new)
>> heaps of paper
>> scissors, cutting boards, rulers, power cables etc
>>
>> we drove the van and all in it to the festival and set up
>> immediately.
>> the first day was about setting up the site (the fest was 2 days) and
>> the second day was about producing the books. that was in the
>> theory and
>> it worked except that it took a lot longer to test everything and
>> refine
>> the workflow. essentially all worked (except an inkjet printer that I
>> managed to break by trying to set it up too quick) except we had a
>> huge
>> problem with the duplex printing. duplex printing means a printer can
>> take a page print one side then suck it back and print the other
>> side.
>> the big issue here was that the duplex printing did not print the
>> front
>> and back pages in the same position. this was frustrating and we
>> spent a
>> long time working this out. Janet was there trouble shooting and she
>> worked it out. essentially we had to use the printer as a
>> 'normal' (sans
>> duplex) printer, print all the even sides take them out flip them
>> over
>> and then print the odd sides on the back. this was a stupid way to do
>> things but the only way that worked.
>>
>> we used the Booki User Guide as the example book although we also
>> made a
>> few other books for those that came to the booki mobile and wanted to
>> make a book :)
>>
>> so. the feedback was tremendous. although we spent much of the time
>> working out the systems i actually spent a lot of my time talking to
>> people that were interested in the process, floss manuals, booki, and
>> the booki mobile. so much time actually that it slowed down the set
>> up!
>> still, it was good to get people excited and involved so that was ok.
>>
>> in the end we made some books and they looked beautiful.
>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/book.png
>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/interior.png
>>
>> then we packed up, spent a tired day in barcelona and drove back to
>> berlin (it took 28hours + one sleep stop to get back).
>>
>> so. the booki mobile did what it had to do in terms of actually
>> making
>> books and also it inspired alot of people. it will also have a
>> tremendous future. those aspects i consider a success. however i dont
>> think DB cared and in my own mind i have given up on Drumbeat. its
>> only
>> so long that we can knock at the DB door and be ignored before we get
>> the idea we are not wanted. i think it is worthwhile trying to win
>> the
>> DB open web award for profiling reasons but apart from that i think
>> its
>> not interesting anymore to pursue the DB channel.
>>
>>
>> so, the bookimobile lives and its a cool thing :) next i will blog
>> about
>> it, send pr, send sponsorship reports and look for funding for
>> running
>> costs...
>>
>> :)
>>
>> adam
>>
>
>
> --
> ____________________________________________________________
>
> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst
> helen at creative-catalyst.com
> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
> http://www.avatarbodycollision.org
> http://www.upstage.org.nz
> ____________________________________________________________
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:45:08 +0100
> From: adam <adam at xs4all.nl>
> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
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>
> hey
>
> the fastback 15xs is for perfect binding. it does a good job. the
> purists would not like the binding technique as it leaves a thin tape
> along the inside spine but i think the binds look great
>
> adam
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 07:33 -0500, John Rigdon wrote:
>>> hey all,
>>>
>>> so a booki mobile update.
>>
>> What equipment / process are you using to perfect bind the books?
>> I see you
>> have a paper cutter similar to mine, which would be a MAJOR pain to
>> lug
>> around, but necessary to have at a show, but I have not come up
>> with a
>> workable / portable perfect binding solution.
>>
>> I use a liquid glue myself which takes up to 6 hours to dry, but I
>> expect a
>> hot glue process may work, but not be as strong in the end.
>>
>> John Rigdon
>> www.ngohaiti.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
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>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:45:40 +0100
> From: adam <adam at xs4all.nl>
> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
> Message-ID: <1289396740.1737.88.camel at esetera>
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>
> thanks for the energy helen :) right now, after such a long trip, its
> very much appreciated :)
>
> adam
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 14:38 +0100, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>> wow adam, that is an amazing mission! well done! :)
>>
>> stop knocking on the doors that don't open & go through the ones that
>> do; who knows what drumbeat's agenda really is (underneath it all
>> there's bound to be a profit-motive) - if they're not interested
>> they're
>> clearly stupid!
>>
>> h : )
>>
>> On 10/11/10 1:23 PM, adam hyde wrote:
>>> hey all,
>>>
>>> so a booki mobile update.
>>>
>>> some photos here:
>>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
>>>
>>> well...i have to say this was probably a crazy idea from the
>>> start. i
>>> was motivated largely because a mobile book producing lab is just a
>>> great idea and partly from frustration because we have been trying
>>> to
>>> work with Drumbeat for some time and it was not going anywhere. i
>>> did
>>> not and do not understand this since all the aims of drumbeat
>>> coincide
>>> with what we do however we have had no support from them. in
>>> addition
>>> there are groups that have not tried to work with drumbeat and
>>> have had
>>> a huge profiling at the Drumbeat events. The Free Knowledge
>>> Academy is
>>> one such example - they got major billing at the event where we
>>> were not
>>> even initially invited.
>>>
>>> so apart from loving the idea of the book mobile i was also
>>> frustrated.
>>> i think DB should work with us however there is a blockage
>>> somewhere. i
>>> didnt want to give up so the book mobile was a last trial to
>>> convince DB
>>> they should take us seriously.
>>>
>>> there are many reasons why i want DB to come our way and work with
>>> us.
>>> its not just ideological (a shared ideology) but thats a big part
>>> of
>>> it. it is also because they have the power to profile projects which
>>> would help us tremendously and they also have the power to fund
>>> which is
>>> also interesting to us. also if i was to write the aims of
>>> Drumbeat down
>>> on paper they would coincide with ours pretty well and it just makes
>>> sense to me to make alliances when the match looks good. its about
>>> creating synergies as much as anything.
>>>
>>> on top of all this the book mobile (or now called the 'booki
>>> mobile') is
>>> just a good idea. so many times i tell people about booki and they
>>> get
>>> it conceptually but when i give them a book they are amazed. that
>>> last
>>> step is important and now the booki mobile can do just that. take
>>> the
>>> technology to the people so they understand its intent and
>>> utility. sure
>>> its not the optimum way to do things, we also need to improve PR and
>>> other outreach channels but it is one very inspiring channel for
>>> us to
>>> show what we do. additionally i now have the equipment to make
>>> books for
>>> 1-2 euro to send to reviewers etc to get their attention.
>>> previously i
>>> had been doing this by buying lulu.com copies of our books and
>>> shipping
>>> them without letters etc directly from lulu to the reviewers. this
>>> is
>>> costly as lulu is expensive and it is not good to 'cold call' like
>>> this.
>>> buying lulu books and having them rerouted through my home address,
>>> adding a letter, and sending on is also just a stupid idea. so now
>>> i can
>>> make books and send them directly and cheaply.
>>>
>>> anyways. so with 6 weeks to go until the DB fest i wrote some
>>> sponsorship proposals for the book mobile. i sent them away
>>> expecting
>>> negative replies and instead got a +ve response from
>>> francophonie.org.
>>> Yay!!! however that meant i needed to get more $ else we had only
>>> 1/3 of
>>> the money required. the total cost of the project on paper was
>>> approx
>>> 10,000 euro but in fact the cost was about 12000 and we got about
>>> 8000
>>> in sponsorship.
>>>
>>> so, i wrote to civicrm and they said yes :) and also iCommons and
>>> Mozilla came in. thats cool. so all that came in with about 2 weeks
>>> until the fest. i was of course also moving house and i had 2
>>> sprints
>>> and several presentations about fm before the event. so it wasnt
>>> easy
>>> but i researched the equipment and found it all, purchased it, and
>>> threw
>>> it in the booki mobile (vw t4 van) and drove it 2000 km to barcelona
>>> (took 3 days).
>>>
>>> the equipment consisted of:
>>> 1x Fastback 15XS binder (second hand from Munich)
>>> 1x Samsung 2850 duplex lazer printer (black and white) (new)
>>> 1x Ideal 3915-90 paper cutter (second hand from Berlin)
>>> 1 x t4 vw van (second hand from berlin)
>>> 2 x laptops (mine)
>>> 1 x robocraft cutter (new)
>>> heaps of paper
>>> scissors, cutting boards, rulers, power cables etc
>>>
>>> we drove the van and all in it to the festival and set up
>>> immediately.
>>> the first day was about setting up the site (the fest was 2 days)
>>> and
>>> the second day was about producing the books. that was in the
>>> theory and
>>> it worked except that it took a lot longer to test everything and
>>> refine
>>> the workflow. essentially all worked (except an inkjet printer
>>> that I
>>> managed to break by trying to set it up too quick) except we had a
>>> huge
>>> problem with the duplex printing. duplex printing means a printer
>>> can
>>> take a page print one side then suck it back and print the other
>>> side.
>>> the big issue here was that the duplex printing did not print the
>>> front
>>> and back pages in the same position. this was frustrating and we
>>> spent a
>>> long time working this out. Janet was there trouble shooting and she
>>> worked it out. essentially we had to use the printer as a
>>> 'normal' (sans
>>> duplex) printer, print all the even sides take them out flip them
>>> over
>>> and then print the odd sides on the back. this was a stupid way to
>>> do
>>> things but the only way that worked.
>>>
>>> we used the Booki User Guide as the example book although we also
>>> made a
>>> few other books for those that came to the booki mobile and wanted
>>> to
>>> make a book :)
>>>
>>> so. the feedback was tremendous. although we spent much of the time
>>> working out the systems i actually spent a lot of my time talking to
>>> people that were interested in the process, floss manuals, booki,
>>> and
>>> the booki mobile. so much time actually that it slowed down the
>>> set up!
>>> still, it was good to get people excited and involved so that was
>>> ok.
>>>
>>> in the end we made some books and they looked beautiful.
>>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/book.png
>>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/interior.png
>>>
>>> then we packed up, spent a tired day in barcelona and drove back to
>>> berlin (it took 28hours + one sleep stop to get back).
>>>
>>> so. the booki mobile did what it had to do in terms of actually
>>> making
>>> books and also it inspired alot of people. it will also have a
>>> tremendous future. those aspects i consider a success. however i
>>> dont
>>> think DB cared and in my own mind i have given up on Drumbeat. its
>>> only
>>> so long that we can knock at the DB door and be ignored before we
>>> get
>>> the idea we are not wanted. i think it is worthwhile trying to win
>>> the
>>> DB open web award for profiling reasons but apart from that i
>>> think its
>>> not interesting anymore to pursue the DB channel.
>>>
>>>
>>> so, the bookimobile lives and its a cool thing :) next i will blog
>>> about
>>> it, send pr, send sponsorship reports and look for funding for
>>> running
>>> costs...
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> adam
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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