[FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
adam
adam at xs4all.nl
Thu Nov 11 03:10:49 PST 2010
rebecca - do you have an example css i could try?
adam
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 09:36 -0800, Rebecca Hargrave Malamud wrote:
> > so a booki mobile update.
> >
> > some photos here:
> > http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
>
> Cool !!! - It sounds like we should start a BookMobile network :-)
>
> (BTW, you can alleviate your duplexing problem by building in R/L page
> gutter margin in your CSS. Of course, this is one of those details
> that one always has to learn the hard way through at least one live
> demo <g> )
>
> Rebecca Malamud
> -------------------------------------------
> http://ruraldesigncollective.org/
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:50 AM, discuss-request at lists.flossmanuals.net
> wrote:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:23:20 +0100
> > From: adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>
> > To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> > Subject: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
> > Message-ID: <1289391800.1737.86.camel at esetera>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > hey all,
> >
> > so a booki mobile update.
> >
> > some photos here:
> > http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
> >
> > well...i have to say this was probably a crazy idea from the start. i
> > was motivated largely because a mobile book producing lab is just a
> > great idea and partly from frustration because we have been trying to
> > work with Drumbeat for some time and it was not going anywhere. i did
> > not and do not understand this since all the aims of drumbeat coincide
> > with what we do however we have had no support from them. in addition
> > there are groups that have not tried to work with drumbeat and have
> > had
> > a huge profiling at the Drumbeat events. The Free Knowledge Academy is
> > one such example - they got major billing at the event where we were
> > not
> > even initially invited.
> >
> > so apart from loving the idea of the book mobile i was also
> > frustrated.
> > i think DB should work with us however there is a blockage
> > somewhere. i
> > didnt want to give up so the book mobile was a last trial to
> > convince DB
> > they should take us seriously.
> >
> > there are many reasons why i want DB to come our way and work with us.
> > its not just ideological (a shared ideology) but thats a big part of
> > it. it is also because they have the power to profile projects which
> > would help us tremendously and they also have the power to fund
> > which is
> > also interesting to us. also if i was to write the aims of Drumbeat
> > down
> > on paper they would coincide with ours pretty well and it just makes
> > sense to me to make alliances when the match looks good. its about
> > creating synergies as much as anything.
> >
> > on top of all this the book mobile (or now called the 'booki
> > mobile') is
> > just a good idea. so many times i tell people about booki and they get
> > it conceptually but when i give them a book they are amazed. that last
> > step is important and now the booki mobile can do just that. take the
> > technology to the people so they understand its intent and utility.
> > sure
> > its not the optimum way to do things, we also need to improve PR and
> > other outreach channels but it is one very inspiring channel for us to
> > show what we do. additionally i now have the equipment to make books
> > for
> > 1-2 euro to send to reviewers etc to get their attention. previously i
> > had been doing this by buying lulu.com copies of our books and
> > shipping
> > them without letters etc directly from lulu to the reviewers. this is
> > costly as lulu is expensive and it is not good to 'cold call' like
> > this.
> > buying lulu books and having them rerouted through my home address,
> > adding a letter, and sending on is also just a stupid idea. so now i
> > can
> > make books and send them directly and cheaply.
> >
> > anyways. so with 6 weeks to go until the DB fest i wrote some
> > sponsorship proposals for the book mobile. i sent them away expecting
> > negative replies and instead got a +ve response from francophonie.org.
> > Yay!!! however that meant i needed to get more $ else we had only
> > 1/3 of
> > the money required. the total cost of the project on paper was approx
> > 10,000 euro but in fact the cost was about 12000 and we got about 8000
> > in sponsorship.
> >
> > so, i wrote to civicrm and they said yes :) and also iCommons and
> > Mozilla came in. thats cool. so all that came in with about 2 weeks
> > until the fest. i was of course also moving house and i had 2 sprints
> > and several presentations about fm before the event. so it wasnt easy
> > but i researched the equipment and found it all, purchased it, and
> > threw
> > it in the booki mobile (vw t4 van) and drove it 2000 km to barcelona
> > (took 3 days).
> >
> > the equipment consisted of:
> > 1x Fastback 15XS binder (second hand from Munich)
> > 1x Samsung 2850 duplex lazer printer (black and white) (new)
> > 1x Ideal 3915-90 paper cutter (second hand from Berlin)
> > 1 x t4 vw van (second hand from berlin)
> > 2 x laptops (mine)
> > 1 x robocraft cutter (new)
> > heaps of paper
> > scissors, cutting boards, rulers, power cables etc
> >
> > we drove the van and all in it to the festival and set up immediately.
> > the first day was about setting up the site (the fest was 2 days) and
> > the second day was about producing the books. that was in the theory
> > and
> > it worked except that it took a lot longer to test everything and
> > refine
> > the workflow. essentially all worked (except an inkjet printer that I
> > managed to break by trying to set it up too quick) except we had a
> > huge
> > problem with the duplex printing. duplex printing means a printer can
> > take a page print one side then suck it back and print the other side.
> > the big issue here was that the duplex printing did not print the
> > front
> > and back pages in the same position. this was frustrating and we
> > spent a
> > long time working this out. Janet was there trouble shooting and she
> > worked it out. essentially we had to use the printer as a
> > 'normal' (sans
> > duplex) printer, print all the even sides take them out flip them over
> > and then print the odd sides on the back. this was a stupid way to do
> > things but the only way that worked.
> >
> > we used the Booki User Guide as the example book although we also
> > made a
> > few other books for those that came to the booki mobile and wanted to
> > make a book :)
> >
> > so. the feedback was tremendous. although we spent much of the time
> > working out the systems i actually spent a lot of my time talking to
> > people that were interested in the process, floss manuals, booki, and
> > the booki mobile. so much time actually that it slowed down the set
> > up!
> > still, it was good to get people excited and involved so that was ok.
> >
> > in the end we made some books and they looked beautiful.
> > http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/book.png
> > http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/interior.png
> >
> > then we packed up, spent a tired day in barcelona and drove back to
> > berlin (it took 28hours + one sleep stop to get back).
> >
> > so. the booki mobile did what it had to do in terms of actually making
> > books and also it inspired alot of people. it will also have a
> > tremendous future. those aspects i consider a success. however i dont
> > think DB cared and in my own mind i have given up on Drumbeat. its
> > only
> > so long that we can knock at the DB door and be ignored before we get
> > the idea we are not wanted. i think it is worthwhile trying to win the
> > DB open web award for profiling reasons but apart from that i think
> > its
> > not interesting anymore to pursue the DB channel.
> >
> >
> > so, the bookimobile lives and its a cool thing :) next i will blog
> > about
> > it, send pr, send sponsorship reports and look for funding for running
> > costs...
> >
> > :)
> >
> > adam
> >
> > --
> > vote for booki in the Open Web Awards!
> >
> > Booki (the latest FM project - http://www.booki.cc - a collaborative
> > publishing platform) is in the final of the Open Web Awards.
> > Great! We are 1 of 3 projects. If we win we get 5000 which we will use
> > to do a code sprint on a tropical island somewhere ;)
> >
> > please please please register :
> > http://www.drumbeat.org/user/register
> >
> > and vote for us:
> > http://www.drumbeat.org/project/open-web-publishing
> >
> > and pass this around!!!! :)
> >
> > Adam Hyde
> > Founder FLOSS Manuals &
> > Booki Project Manager
> >
> > Contact Information
> > German mobile : + 49 177 4935122
> > Email : adam at flossmanuals.net
> > irc : irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals
> >
> >
> > "Free manuals for free software"
> > http://www.flossmanuals.net/about
> >
> > Free Software for making Free Books
> > http://www.booki.cc/
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:33:30 -0500
> > From: "John Rigdon" <jrigdon at researchonline.net>
> > To: <discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
> > Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
> > Message-ID: <4D138447BCED4BB29C9B1AF1E679D8F5 at edr9>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> >> hey all,
> >>
> >> so a booki mobile update.
> >
> > What equipment / process are you using to perfect bind the books? I
> > see you
> > have a paper cutter similar to mine, which would be a MAJOR pain to
> > lug
> > around, but necessary to have at a show, but I have not come up with a
> > workable / portable perfect binding solution.
> >
> > I use a liquid glue myself which takes up to 6 hours to dry, but I
> > expect a
> > hot glue process may work, but not be as strong in the end.
> >
> > John Rigdon
> > www.ngohaiti.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:38:33 +0100
> > From: helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com>
> > To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> > Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
> > Message-ID: <4CDAA059.1010107 at creative-catalyst.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed
> >
> > wow adam, that is an amazing mission! well done! :)
> >
> > stop knocking on the doors that don't open & go through the ones that
> > do; who knows what drumbeat's agenda really is (underneath it all
> > there's bound to be a profit-motive) - if they're not interested
> > they're
> > clearly stupid!
> >
> > h : )
> >
> > On 10/11/10 1:23 PM, adam hyde wrote:
> >> hey all,
> >>
> >> so a booki mobile update.
> >>
> >> some photos here:
> >> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
> >>
> >> well...i have to say this was probably a crazy idea from the start. i
> >> was motivated largely because a mobile book producing lab is just a
> >> great idea and partly from frustration because we have been trying to
> >> work with Drumbeat for some time and it was not going anywhere. i did
> >> not and do not understand this since all the aims of drumbeat
> >> coincide
> >> with what we do however we have had no support from them. in addition
> >> there are groups that have not tried to work with drumbeat and have
> >> had
> >> a huge profiling at the Drumbeat events. The Free Knowledge Academy
> >> is
> >> one such example - they got major billing at the event where we
> >> were not
> >> even initially invited.
> >>
> >> so apart from loving the idea of the book mobile i was also
> >> frustrated.
> >> i think DB should work with us however there is a blockage
> >> somewhere. i
> >> didnt want to give up so the book mobile was a last trial to
> >> convince DB
> >> they should take us seriously.
> >>
> >> there are many reasons why i want DB to come our way and work with
> >> us.
> >> its not just ideological (a shared ideology) but thats a big part of
> >> it. it is also because they have the power to profile projects which
> >> would help us tremendously and they also have the power to fund
> >> which is
> >> also interesting to us. also if i was to write the aims of Drumbeat
> >> down
> >> on paper they would coincide with ours pretty well and it just makes
> >> sense to me to make alliances when the match looks good. its about
> >> creating synergies as much as anything.
> >>
> >> on top of all this the book mobile (or now called the 'booki
> >> mobile') is
> >> just a good idea. so many times i tell people about booki and they
> >> get
> >> it conceptually but when i give them a book they are amazed. that
> >> last
> >> step is important and now the booki mobile can do just that. take the
> >> technology to the people so they understand its intent and utility.
> >> sure
> >> its not the optimum way to do things, we also need to improve PR and
> >> other outreach channels but it is one very inspiring channel for us
> >> to
> >> show what we do. additionally i now have the equipment to make
> >> books for
> >> 1-2 euro to send to reviewers etc to get their attention.
> >> previously i
> >> had been doing this by buying lulu.com copies of our books and
> >> shipping
> >> them without letters etc directly from lulu to the reviewers. this is
> >> costly as lulu is expensive and it is not good to 'cold call' like
> >> this.
> >> buying lulu books and having them rerouted through my home address,
> >> adding a letter, and sending on is also just a stupid idea. so now
> >> i can
> >> make books and send them directly and cheaply.
> >>
> >> anyways. so with 6 weeks to go until the DB fest i wrote some
> >> sponsorship proposals for the book mobile. i sent them away expecting
> >> negative replies and instead got a +ve response from
> >> francophonie.org.
> >> Yay!!! however that meant i needed to get more $ else we had only
> >> 1/3 of
> >> the money required. the total cost of the project on paper was approx
> >> 10,000 euro but in fact the cost was about 12000 and we got about
> >> 8000
> >> in sponsorship.
> >>
> >> so, i wrote to civicrm and they said yes :) and also iCommons and
> >> Mozilla came in. thats cool. so all that came in with about 2 weeks
> >> until the fest. i was of course also moving house and i had 2 sprints
> >> and several presentations about fm before the event. so it wasnt easy
> >> but i researched the equipment and found it all, purchased it, and
> >> threw
> >> it in the booki mobile (vw t4 van) and drove it 2000 km to barcelona
> >> (took 3 days).
> >>
> >> the equipment consisted of:
> >> 1x Fastback 15XS binder (second hand from Munich)
> >> 1x Samsung 2850 duplex lazer printer (black and white) (new)
> >> 1x Ideal 3915-90 paper cutter (second hand from Berlin)
> >> 1 x t4 vw van (second hand from berlin)
> >> 2 x laptops (mine)
> >> 1 x robocraft cutter (new)
> >> heaps of paper
> >> scissors, cutting boards, rulers, power cables etc
> >>
> >> we drove the van and all in it to the festival and set up
> >> immediately.
> >> the first day was about setting up the site (the fest was 2 days) and
> >> the second day was about producing the books. that was in the
> >> theory and
> >> it worked except that it took a lot longer to test everything and
> >> refine
> >> the workflow. essentially all worked (except an inkjet printer that I
> >> managed to break by trying to set it up too quick) except we had a
> >> huge
> >> problem with the duplex printing. duplex printing means a printer can
> >> take a page print one side then suck it back and print the other
> >> side.
> >> the big issue here was that the duplex printing did not print the
> >> front
> >> and back pages in the same position. this was frustrating and we
> >> spent a
> >> long time working this out. Janet was there trouble shooting and she
> >> worked it out. essentially we had to use the printer as a
> >> 'normal' (sans
> >> duplex) printer, print all the even sides take them out flip them
> >> over
> >> and then print the odd sides on the back. this was a stupid way to do
> >> things but the only way that worked.
> >>
> >> we used the Booki User Guide as the example book although we also
> >> made a
> >> few other books for those that came to the booki mobile and wanted to
> >> make a book :)
> >>
> >> so. the feedback was tremendous. although we spent much of the time
> >> working out the systems i actually spent a lot of my time talking to
> >> people that were interested in the process, floss manuals, booki, and
> >> the booki mobile. so much time actually that it slowed down the set
> >> up!
> >> still, it was good to get people excited and involved so that was ok.
> >>
> >> in the end we made some books and they looked beautiful.
> >> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/book.png
> >> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/interior.png
> >>
> >> then we packed up, spent a tired day in barcelona and drove back to
> >> berlin (it took 28hours + one sleep stop to get back).
> >>
> >> so. the booki mobile did what it had to do in terms of actually
> >> making
> >> books and also it inspired alot of people. it will also have a
> >> tremendous future. those aspects i consider a success. however i dont
> >> think DB cared and in my own mind i have given up on Drumbeat. its
> >> only
> >> so long that we can knock at the DB door and be ignored before we get
> >> the idea we are not wanted. i think it is worthwhile trying to win
> >> the
> >> DB open web award for profiling reasons but apart from that i think
> >> its
> >> not interesting anymore to pursue the DB channel.
> >>
> >>
> >> so, the bookimobile lives and its a cool thing :) next i will blog
> >> about
> >> it, send pr, send sponsorship reports and look for funding for
> >> running
> >> costs...
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> adam
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > ____________________________________________________________
> >
> > helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst
> > helen at creative-catalyst.com
> > http://www.creative-catalyst.com
> > http://www.avatarbodycollision.org
> > http://www.upstage.org.nz
> > ____________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:45:08 +0100
> > From: adam <adam at xs4all.nl>
> > To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> > Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
> > Message-ID: <1289396708.1737.87.camel at esetera>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > hey
> >
> > the fastback 15xs is for perfect binding. it does a good job. the
> > purists would not like the binding technique as it leaves a thin tape
> > along the inside spine but i think the binds look great
> >
> > adam
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 07:33 -0500, John Rigdon wrote:
> >>> hey all,
> >>>
> >>> so a booki mobile update.
> >>
> >> What equipment / process are you using to perfect bind the books?
> >> I see you
> >> have a paper cutter similar to mine, which would be a MAJOR pain to
> >> lug
> >> around, but necessary to have at a show, but I have not come up
> >> with a
> >> workable / portable perfect binding solution.
> >>
> >> I use a liquid glue myself which takes up to 6 hours to dry, but I
> >> expect a
> >> hot glue process may work, but not be as strong in the end.
> >>
> >> John Rigdon
> >> www.ngohaiti.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> Discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:45:40 +0100
> > From: adam <adam at xs4all.nl>
> > To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> > Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] booki mobile makes its first trip
> > Message-ID: <1289396740.1737.88.camel at esetera>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > thanks for the energy helen :) right now, after such a long trip, its
> > very much appreciated :)
> >
> > adam
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 14:38 +0100, helen varley jamieson wrote:
> >> wow adam, that is an amazing mission! well done! :)
> >>
> >> stop knocking on the doors that don't open & go through the ones that
> >> do; who knows what drumbeat's agenda really is (underneath it all
> >> there's bound to be a profit-motive) - if they're not interested
> >> they're
> >> clearly stupid!
> >>
> >> h : )
> >>
> >> On 10/11/10 1:23 PM, adam hyde wrote:
> >>> hey all,
> >>>
> >>> so a booki mobile update.
> >>>
> >>> some photos here:
> >>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos
> >>>
> >>> well...i have to say this was probably a crazy idea from the
> >>> start. i
> >>> was motivated largely because a mobile book producing lab is just a
> >>> great idea and partly from frustration because we have been trying
> >>> to
> >>> work with Drumbeat for some time and it was not going anywhere. i
> >>> did
> >>> not and do not understand this since all the aims of drumbeat
> >>> coincide
> >>> with what we do however we have had no support from them. in
> >>> addition
> >>> there are groups that have not tried to work with drumbeat and
> >>> have had
> >>> a huge profiling at the Drumbeat events. The Free Knowledge
> >>> Academy is
> >>> one such example - they got major billing at the event where we
> >>> were not
> >>> even initially invited.
> >>>
> >>> so apart from loving the idea of the book mobile i was also
> >>> frustrated.
> >>> i think DB should work with us however there is a blockage
> >>> somewhere. i
> >>> didnt want to give up so the book mobile was a last trial to
> >>> convince DB
> >>> they should take us seriously.
> >>>
> >>> there are many reasons why i want DB to come our way and work with
> >>> us.
> >>> its not just ideological (a shared ideology) but thats a big part
> >>> of
> >>> it. it is also because they have the power to profile projects which
> >>> would help us tremendously and they also have the power to fund
> >>> which is
> >>> also interesting to us. also if i was to write the aims of
> >>> Drumbeat down
> >>> on paper they would coincide with ours pretty well and it just makes
> >>> sense to me to make alliances when the match looks good. its about
> >>> creating synergies as much as anything.
> >>>
> >>> on top of all this the book mobile (or now called the 'booki
> >>> mobile') is
> >>> just a good idea. so many times i tell people about booki and they
> >>> get
> >>> it conceptually but when i give them a book they are amazed. that
> >>> last
> >>> step is important and now the booki mobile can do just that. take
> >>> the
> >>> technology to the people so they understand its intent and
> >>> utility. sure
> >>> its not the optimum way to do things, we also need to improve PR and
> >>> other outreach channels but it is one very inspiring channel for
> >>> us to
> >>> show what we do. additionally i now have the equipment to make
> >>> books for
> >>> 1-2 euro to send to reviewers etc to get their attention.
> >>> previously i
> >>> had been doing this by buying lulu.com copies of our books and
> >>> shipping
> >>> them without letters etc directly from lulu to the reviewers. this
> >>> is
> >>> costly as lulu is expensive and it is not good to 'cold call' like
> >>> this.
> >>> buying lulu books and having them rerouted through my home address,
> >>> adding a letter, and sending on is also just a stupid idea. so now
> >>> i can
> >>> make books and send them directly and cheaply.
> >>>
> >>> anyways. so with 6 weeks to go until the DB fest i wrote some
> >>> sponsorship proposals for the book mobile. i sent them away
> >>> expecting
> >>> negative replies and instead got a +ve response from
> >>> francophonie.org.
> >>> Yay!!! however that meant i needed to get more $ else we had only
> >>> 1/3 of
> >>> the money required. the total cost of the project on paper was
> >>> approx
> >>> 10,000 euro but in fact the cost was about 12000 and we got about
> >>> 8000
> >>> in sponsorship.
> >>>
> >>> so, i wrote to civicrm and they said yes :) and also iCommons and
> >>> Mozilla came in. thats cool. so all that came in with about 2 weeks
> >>> until the fest. i was of course also moving house and i had 2
> >>> sprints
> >>> and several presentations about fm before the event. so it wasnt
> >>> easy
> >>> but i researched the equipment and found it all, purchased it, and
> >>> threw
> >>> it in the booki mobile (vw t4 van) and drove it 2000 km to barcelona
> >>> (took 3 days).
> >>>
> >>> the equipment consisted of:
> >>> 1x Fastback 15XS binder (second hand from Munich)
> >>> 1x Samsung 2850 duplex lazer printer (black and white) (new)
> >>> 1x Ideal 3915-90 paper cutter (second hand from Berlin)
> >>> 1 x t4 vw van (second hand from berlin)
> >>> 2 x laptops (mine)
> >>> 1 x robocraft cutter (new)
> >>> heaps of paper
> >>> scissors, cutting boards, rulers, power cables etc
> >>>
> >>> we drove the van and all in it to the festival and set up
> >>> immediately.
> >>> the first day was about setting up the site (the fest was 2 days)
> >>> and
> >>> the second day was about producing the books. that was in the
> >>> theory and
> >>> it worked except that it took a lot longer to test everything and
> >>> refine
> >>> the workflow. essentially all worked (except an inkjet printer
> >>> that I
> >>> managed to break by trying to set it up too quick) except we had a
> >>> huge
> >>> problem with the duplex printing. duplex printing means a printer
> >>> can
> >>> take a page print one side then suck it back and print the other
> >>> side.
> >>> the big issue here was that the duplex printing did not print the
> >>> front
> >>> and back pages in the same position. this was frustrating and we
> >>> spent a
> >>> long time working this out. Janet was there trouble shooting and she
> >>> worked it out. essentially we had to use the printer as a
> >>> 'normal' (sans
> >>> duplex) printer, print all the even sides take them out flip them
> >>> over
> >>> and then print the odd sides on the back. this was a stupid way to
> >>> do
> >>> things but the only way that worked.
> >>>
> >>> we used the Booki User Guide as the example book although we also
> >>> made a
> >>> few other books for those that came to the booki mobile and wanted
> >>> to
> >>> make a book :)
> >>>
> >>> so. the feedback was tremendous. although we spent much of the time
> >>> working out the systems i actually spent a lot of my time talking to
> >>> people that were interested in the process, floss manuals, booki,
> >>> and
> >>> the booki mobile. so much time actually that it slowed down the
> >>> set up!
> >>> still, it was good to get people excited and involved so that was
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> in the end we made some books and they looked beautiful.
> >>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/book.png
> >>> http://adam.engagetv.com/bookimobile_photos/interior.png
> >>>
> >>> then we packed up, spent a tired day in barcelona and drove back to
> >>> berlin (it took 28hours + one sleep stop to get back).
> >>>
> >>> so. the booki mobile did what it had to do in terms of actually
> >>> making
> >>> books and also it inspired alot of people. it will also have a
> >>> tremendous future. those aspects i consider a success. however i
> >>> dont
> >>> think DB cared and in my own mind i have given up on Drumbeat. its
> >>> only
> >>> so long that we can knock at the DB door and be ignored before we
> >>> get
> >>> the idea we are not wanted. i think it is worthwhile trying to win
> >>> the
> >>> DB open web award for profiling reasons but apart from that i
> >>> think its
> >>> not interesting anymore to pursue the DB channel.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> so, the bookimobile lives and its a cool thing :) next i will blog
> >>> about
> >>> it, send pr, send sponsorship reports and look for funding for
> >>> running
> >>> costs...
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> adam
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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