[FM Discuss] Fw: Thunderbird Floss Manual - tasks and status
John Curwood
marketing at lovinglearning.co.nz
Mon Nov 15 19:41:43 PST 2010
Hi Mark,
Yeah that is correct, I've had a play with the settings before and
published manuals just to play and test things out.
If you don't want a chapter to be published, use arrange manual index to
move the chapter into the left-hand column.
Cheers,
John
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 22:21 -0500, Mark wrote:
> Hi John -
>
> Thanks for that explanation, I really appreciate it.
>
> It looks like a chapter's status doesn't affect whether or not it gets
> published. Is that correct?
>
> Mark
>
> On 11/15/2010 04:39 PM, John Curwood wrote:
> > With the publish button is pressed, an HTML version of the book is
> > created, which can then be linked to from the FM front page.
> >
> > The link will need to be manually created by one of the FM admins once
> > the manual is published (To see what the manual will look like, visit
> > any of the manuals that are linked from the front page). When you
> > publish the manual only chapters that have been added to the Table of
> > Contents using the "arrange manual index" tool will be published. So, if
> > you have most chapters ready for publishing but a couple that need a lot
> > of work before being ready for publishing, but you want to publish the
> > book now, click and drag the unfinished chapter into the left hand
> > column in the 'arrange manual index' tool and when you click publish
> > that particular chapter wont get published.
> >
> > Once published you can keep modifying the manual without worrying that
> > the published version will get changed and then when enough changes have
> > been made you can click the publish button again to update the HTML
> > manual with the changes you have made.
> >
> > If that isn't clear, which reading over it now it may not be, or you
> > have any other questions then just ask the list.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:08 -0500, Mark wrote:
> > > Hello John -
> > >
> > > Please email feedback to the list.
> > >
> > > Also, what happens when someone pushes the Publish button?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > On 11/15/2010 03:47 PM, John Curwood wrote:
> > > > Hi Mark,
> > > >
> > > > I think for the checking the Chapters marked "Feedback Please" it's
> > > > a good idea to use people on the list so that you get fresh
> > > > perspective from people that aren't involved in writing the
> > > > Thunderbird manual at all let alone the specific chapter requiring
> > > > feedback.
> > > >
> > > > By the way how do you want feed back to be received?
> > > >
> > > > Via an email to the List or via the "Chapter Talk" link.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 11:59 -0500, Mark wrote:
> > > > > Hello All -
> > > > >
> > > > > The Thunderbird manual team has been figuring out what it needs to
> > > > > do to finish the book and get it published. Adam thought that it
> > > > > would be good to share this discussion with the FM list. Please
> > > > > take a look and join in with suggestions and comments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > Re: Thunderbird Floss Manual -
> > > > > tasks and status
> > > > > Date:
> > > > > Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:27:46 -0500
> > > > > From:
> > > > > Mark <mark.brennan at gmx.com>
> > > > > To:
> > > > > jen at mozillamessaging.com, Scott
> > > > > Nesbitt
> > > > > <nesbitt.scott at gmail.com>
> > > > > CC:
> > > > > adam at flossmanuals.net
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jen and Scott-
> > > > >
> > > > > I was a little unclear about how the statuses work, too. Once upon
> > > > > a time I was a print production manager for a publisher and a part
> > > > > of my job was getting documents through an editorial department.
> > > > > So, trying to put that experience to good use, here's my suggested
> > > > > process for how we can finish this project.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Unpublished: Writing is in progress
> > > > > - Needs Feedback!: The chapter needs to be reviewed and commented
> > > > > on by someone other than the writer. This is when someone should
> > > > > test the task descriptions to confirm that they are correct.
> > > > > - To Be Copy-edited: Copy-edit the chapter for grammar and style
> > > > > but not for content.
> > > > > - To be proofed: One last check before completion.
> > > > > - Complete: Chapter is ready for publication
> > > > > - Published: Chapter is in production
> > > > >
> > > > > At this point, we have many chapters that are ready for
> > > > > proofreading or for copy-editing plus a few that are unpublished
> > > > > or that need feedback. Let's start going through them one by one
> > > > > until we are finished. After proofreading is done for a chapter,
> > > > > we should set it to complete. When all the chapters are complete,
> > > > > we can go ahead and publish the manual. Are you comfortable with
> > > > > is approach? Should we do it differently?
> > > > >
> > > > > About the image that doesn't appear when viewing the page, I had
> > > > > the same issue when reviewing the Composing chapter.
> > > > > I don't know what caused it and I couldn't fix it. I ended up
> > > > > deleting the picture and re-inserting it. Deleting the picture
> > > > > from the page doesn't delete it from the system so I just grabbed
> > > > > the existing picture and put it back where it belonged.
> > > > >
> > > > > When you say the build tools, are you referring to the "Publish"
> > > > > button on the left side of the FLOSS screen? Do you know what
> > > > > happens when you push it? I'm always a little hesitant to push a
> > > > > button when I'm not sure about what happens next...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/12/2010 07:30 PM, Jennifer Zickerman wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Mark. On the main Thunderbird page (where the chapters are
> > > > > > listed), I see that each chapter has a status-like value
> > > > > > ("unpublished", "to be proofed", etc). Can you tell me what
> > > > > > these statuses mean, and how I can help? What is the general
> > > > > > status on the project?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, do you know why the link at the bottom of that page (to
> > > > > > view the manual) is 404? Adam asked me in IRC if I'd tried the
> > > > > > build tools yet - I don't know whether that was a hint or
> > > > > > what. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, I have a technical problem on the Getting Support page
> > > > > > (http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Thunderbird/GettingSupport). When I edit the page, there is a graphic. But when I view the page, I only see the graphic's alt tag ("thunderbird_support_search_engine "). Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No worries if you don't know the answers to any of these
> > > > > > questions - I just thought I'd ask you first. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jen.
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