[FM Discuss] Fw: Thunderbird Floss Manual - tasks and status
Mark
mark.brennan at gmx.com
Mon Nov 15 19:21:54 PST 2010
Hi John -
Thanks for that explanation, I really appreciate it.
It looks like a chapter's status doesn't affect whether or not it gets
published. Is that correct?
Mark
On 11/15/2010 04:39 PM, John Curwood wrote:
> With the publish button is pressed, an HTML version of the book is
> created, which can then be linked to from the FM front page.
>
> The link will need to be manually created by one of the FM admins once
> the manual is published (To see what the manual will look like, visit
> any of the manuals that are linked from the front page). When you
> publish the manual only chapters that have been added to the Table of
> Contents using the "arrange manual index" tool will be published. So, if
> you have most chapters ready for publishing but a couple that need a lot
> of work before being ready for publishing, but you want to publish the
> book now, click and drag the unfinished chapter into the left hand
> column in the 'arrange manual index' tool and when you click publish
> that particular chapter wont get published.
>
> Once published you can keep modifying the manual without worrying that
> the published version will get changed and then when enough changes have
> been made you can click the publish button again to update the HTML
> manual with the changes you have made.
>
> If that isn't clear, which reading over it now it may not be, or you
> have any other questions then just ask the list.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:08 -0500, Mark wrote:
>> Hello John -
>>
>> Please email feedback to the list.
>>
>> Also, what happens when someone pushes the Publish button?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 11/15/2010 03:47 PM, John Curwood wrote:
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> I think for the checking the Chapters marked "Feedback Please" it's
>>> a good idea to use people on the list so that you get fresh
>>> perspective from people that aren't involved in writing the
>>> Thunderbird manual at all let alone the specific chapter requiring
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> By the way how do you want feed back to be received?
>>>
>>> Via an email to the List or via the "Chapter Talk" link.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 11:59 -0500, Mark wrote:
>>>> Hello All -
>>>>
>>>> The Thunderbird manual team has been figuring out what it needs to
>>>> do to finish the book and get it published. Adam thought that it
>>>> would be good to share this discussion with the FM list. Please
>>>> take a look and join in with suggestions and comments.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: Thunderbird Floss Manual -
>>>> tasks and status
>>>> Date:
>>>> Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:27:46 -0500
>>>> From:
>>>> Mark<mark.brennan at gmx.com>
>>>> To:
>>>> jen at mozillamessaging.com, Scott
>>>> Nesbitt
>>>> <nesbitt.scott at gmail.com>
>>>> CC:
>>>> adam at flossmanuals.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jen and Scott-
>>>>
>>>> I was a little unclear about how the statuses work, too. Once upon
>>>> a time I was a print production manager for a publisher and a part
>>>> of my job was getting documents through an editorial department.
>>>> So, trying to put that experience to good use, here's my suggested
>>>> process for how we can finish this project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Unpublished: Writing is in progress
>>>> - Needs Feedback!: The chapter needs to be reviewed and commented
>>>> on by someone other than the writer. This is when someone should
>>>> test the task descriptions to confirm that they are correct.
>>>> - To Be Copy-edited: Copy-edit the chapter for grammar and style
>>>> but not for content.
>>>> - To be proofed: One last check before completion.
>>>> - Complete: Chapter is ready for publication
>>>> - Published: Chapter is in production
>>>>
>>>> At this point, we have many chapters that are ready for
>>>> proofreading or for copy-editing plus a few that are unpublished
>>>> or that need feedback. Let's start going through them one by one
>>>> until we are finished. After proofreading is done for a chapter,
>>>> we should set it to complete. When all the chapters are complete,
>>>> we can go ahead and publish the manual. Are you comfortable with
>>>> is approach? Should we do it differently?
>>>>
>>>> About the image that doesn't appear when viewing the page, I had
>>>> the same issue when reviewing the Composing chapter.
>>>> I don't know what caused it and I couldn't fix it. I ended up
>>>> deleting the picture and re-inserting it. Deleting the picture
>>>> from the page doesn't delete it from the system so I just grabbed
>>>> the existing picture and put it back where it belonged.
>>>>
>>>> When you say the build tools, are you referring to the "Publish"
>>>> button on the left side of the FLOSS screen? Do you know what
>>>> happens when you push it? I'm always a little hesitant to push a
>>>> button when I'm not sure about what happens next...
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2010 07:30 PM, Jennifer Zickerman wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mark. On the main Thunderbird page (where the chapters are
>>>>> listed), I see that each chapter has a status-like value
>>>>> ("unpublished", "to be proofed", etc). Can you tell me what
>>>>> these statuses mean, and how I can help? What is the general
>>>>> status on the project?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, do you know why the link at the bottom of that page (to
>>>>> view the manual) is 404? Adam asked me in IRC if I'd tried the
>>>>> build tools yet - I don't know whether that was a hint or
>>>>> what. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I have a technical problem on the Getting Support page
>>>>> (http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Thunderbird/GettingSupport). When I edit the page, there is a graphic. But when I view the page, I only see the graphic's alt tag ("thunderbird_support_search_engine "). Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> No worries if you don't know the answers to any of these
>>>>> questions - I just thought I'd ask you first. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> jen.
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