[FM Discuss] a crazy moment pondering a manifesto

[Michael McAndrew]

so if i understand correctly, you are putting the emphasis is on the
process of book sprinting, not on the 'organisation' floss manuals...

On 29 June 2012 13:27, adam <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:

> the manifesto is not an FM manifesto. it is looking at what we have
> learned about iterative book production and looking to make this a generic
> method.
>
> it is precisely the kind of thing that could be used in a sprint.
>
> adam
>
>
>
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> On 06/29/2012 02:19 PM, Michael McAndrew wrote:
>
>> Not being flippant / funny but what is the difference between a manifesto
>> and a mission statement? they both seem to describe some aim / goal.
>>
>> it is just word count? or is it that manifesto sounds cooler than mission
>> statement? or something else that i am not getting?
>>
>> feel free to ignore if this question is too tangential / academic.
>>
>> ps. i do like the manifesto.  i think it would be useful to stick up on
>> the
>> wall at the start of a book sprint - get a shared understanding, frame the
>> sprint, etc.
>>
>> michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 June 2012 13:09, Anne Gentle<annegentle at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>  You know, I do find a manifesto a way to ask and answer, "Are these
>>> people my people?"
>>>
>>> I think this is a great start, and it's thought-provoking too.
>>>
>>> James, you did freak us out a little bit with your need for attributed
>>> authorship on each chapter, so it's not that you should feel guilty,
>>> but just recognize there was a bit of an oddity to some of your needs
>>> and requests compared to most who come to FLOSS Manuals. :)
>>>
>>> I like the edits and don't really have much to add. It certainly
>>> displays the shift we're seeing in tech comm overall, where
>>> collaboration is practically the only way to get enough information,
>>> complete chunks are highly valuable over volumes, and so on.
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM, adam<adam at flossmanuals.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> as i have said before, i dont think we need mission statements etc
>>>>
>>>> we work fine, lets not formulate who we are. its like a good party - if
>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>> are having fun and things are working then just let it roll...making
>>>>
>>> rules
>>>
>>>> for it kills the dynamic and the fun.
>>>>
>>>> we know what we are, thats good enough
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/28/2012 04:40 PM, Tomi Toivio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/6/27 Andy Oram<andyo at oreilly.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I want to point out that most
>>>>>> organizations have mission statements, and some also have value
>>>>>> statements
>>>>>> that work like the manifesto Adam is talking about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and to explain what FM is doing in terms that are commonly
>>>>>
>>>> understood
>>>
>>>> is actually very difficult, if you think about people who are not into
>>>>> open
>>>>> source yet, and who are actually the ones who need the manuals the
>>>>> most.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could start by explaining that FM is like a wiki, but actually it
>>>>> is
>>>>> quite different from a normal wiki. Then you notice that many people
>>>>> actually don't know how a wiki works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you can add the confusion about freeware vs. open source. The
>>>>>
>>>> concept
>>>
>>>> of open source is actually hard to understand unless you know something
>>>>> about computer programming. So many people just think about freeware.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also noticed that many people tend to get scared of the manuals
>>>>> since they expect they have to learn something extremely complicated.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a need for something like a video introduction into FM that
>>>>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>> easily translated into various languages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Tomi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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