[FM Discuss] a crazy moment pondering a manifesto

[adam]

its not only about book sprints because book sprint uses this iterative 
methodology but is not only that

you could use these methods for, for example, a weekend burst to update 
various parts of a book


adam

On 06/29/2012 02:31 PM, Michael McAndrew wrote:
> so if i understand correctly, you are putting the emphasis is on the
> process of book sprinting, not on the 'organisation' floss manuals...
>
> On 29 June 2012 13:27, adam<adam at flossmanuals.net>  wrote:
>
>> the manifesto is not an FM manifesto. it is looking at what we have
>> learned about iterative book production and looking to make this a generic
>> method.
>>
>> it is precisely the kind of thing that could be used in a sprint.
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/29/2012 02:19 PM, Michael McAndrew wrote:
>>
>>> Not being flippant / funny but what is the difference between a manifesto
>>> and a mission statement? they both seem to describe some aim / goal.
>>>
>>> it is just word count? or is it that manifesto sounds cooler than mission
>>> statement? or something else that i am not getting?
>>>
>>> feel free to ignore if this question is too tangential / academic.
>>>
>>> ps. i do like the manifesto.  i think it would be useful to stick up on
>>> the
>>> wall at the start of a book sprint - get a shared understanding, frame the
>>> sprint, etc.
>>>
>>> michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 June 2012 13:09, Anne Gentle<annegentle at gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   You know, I do find a manifesto a way to ask and answer, "Are these
>>>> people my people?"
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a great start, and it's thought-provoking too.
>>>>
>>>> James, you did freak us out a little bit with your need for attributed
>>>> authorship on each chapter, so it's not that you should feel guilty,
>>>> but just recognize there was a bit of an oddity to some of your needs
>>>> and requests compared to most who come to FLOSS Manuals. :)
>>>>
>>>> I like the edits and don't really have much to add. It certainly
>>>> displays the shift we're seeing in tech comm overall, where
>>>> collaboration is practically the only way to get enough information,
>>>> complete chunks are highly valuable over volumes, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM, adam<adam at flossmanuals.net>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> as i have said before, i dont think we need mission statements etc
>>>>>
>>>>> we work fine, lets not formulate who we are. its like a good party - if
>>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>> are having fun and things are working then just let it roll...making
>>>>>
>>>> rules
>>>>
>>>>> for it kills the dynamic and the fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> we know what we are, thats good enough
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/28/2012 04:40 PM, Tomi Toivio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/6/27 Andy Oram<andyo at oreilly.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I want to point out that most
>>>>>>> organizations have mission statements, and some also have value
>>>>>>> statements
>>>>>>> that work like the manifesto Adam is talking about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, and to explain what FM is doing in terms that are commonly
>>>>>>
>>>>> understood
>>>>
>>>>> is actually very difficult, if you think about people who are not into
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> source yet, and who are actually the ones who need the manuals the
>>>>>> most.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could start by explaining that FM is like a wiki, but actually it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> quite different from a normal wiki. Then you notice that many people
>>>>>> actually don't know how a wiki works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you can add the confusion about freeware vs. open source. The
>>>>>>
>>>>> concept
>>>>
>>>>> of open source is actually hard to understand unless you know something
>>>>>> about computer programming. So many people just think about freeware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also noticed that many people tend to get scared of the manuals
>>>>>> since they expect they have to learn something extremely complicated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a need for something like a video introduction into FM that
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> easily translated into various languages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Tomi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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