[FM Discuss] a crazy moment pondering a manifesto

Fri Jun 29 06:30:50 PDT 2012

got it

On 29 June 2012 13:36, adam <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:

> its not only about book sprints because book sprint uses this iterative
> methodology but is not only that
>
> you could use these methods for, for example, a weekend burst to update
> various parts of a book
>
>
> adam
>
>
> On 06/29/2012 02:31 PM, Michael McAndrew wrote:
>
>> so if i understand correctly, you are putting the emphasis is on the
>> process of book sprinting, not on the 'organisation' floss manuals...
>>
>> On 29 June 2012 13:27, adam<adam at flossmanuals.net>  wrote:
>>
>>  the manifesto is not an FM manifesto. it is looking at what we have
>>> learned about iterative book production and looking to make this a
>>> generic
>>> method.
>>>
>>> it is precisely the kind of thing that could be used in a sprint.
>>>
>>> adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/29/2012 02:19 PM, Michael McAndrew wrote:
>>>
>>>  Not being flippant / funny but what is the difference between a
>>>> manifesto
>>>> and a mission statement? they both seem to describe some aim / goal.
>>>>
>>>> it is just word count? or is it that manifesto sounds cooler than
>>>> mission
>>>> statement? or something else that i am not getting?
>>>>
>>>> feel free to ignore if this question is too tangential / academic.
>>>>
>>>> ps. i do like the manifesto.  i think it would be useful to stick up on
>>>> the
>>>> wall at the start of a book sprint - get a shared understanding, frame
>>>> the
>>>> sprint, etc.
>>>>
>>>> michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 June 2012 13:09, Anne Gentle<annegentle at gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  You know, I do find a manifesto a way to ask and answer, "Are these
>>>>
>>>>> people my people?"
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this is a great start, and it's thought-provoking too.
>>>>>
>>>>> James, you did freak us out a little bit with your need for attributed
>>>>> authorship on each chapter, so it's not that you should feel guilty,
>>>>> but just recognize there was a bit of an oddity to some of your needs
>>>>> and requests compared to most who come to FLOSS Manuals. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the edits and don't really have much to add. It certainly
>>>>> displays the shift we're seeing in tech comm overall, where
>>>>> collaboration is practically the only way to get enough information,
>>>>> complete chunks are highly valuable over volumes, and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM, adam<adam at flossmanuals.net>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  as i have said before, i dont think we need mission statements etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we work fine, lets not formulate who we are. its like a good party -
>>>>>> if
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  you
>>>>>
>>>>>  are having fun and things are working then just let it roll...making
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  rules
>>>>>
>>>>>  for it kills the dynamic and the fun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we know what we are, thats good enough
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/28/2012 04:40 PM, Tomi Toivio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/6/27 Andy Oram<andyo at oreilly.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I want to point out that most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> organizations have mission statements, and some also have value
>>>>>>>> statements
>>>>>>>> that work like the manifesto Adam is talking about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Yes, and to explain what FM is doing in terms that are commonly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  understood
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  is actually very difficult, if you think about people who are not into
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> source yet, and who are actually the ones who need the manuals the
>>>>>>> most.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could start by explaining that FM is like a wiki, but actually it
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> quite different from a normal wiki. Then you notice that many people
>>>>>>> actually don't know how a wiki works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you can add the confusion about freeware vs. open source. The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  concept
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  of open source is actually hard to understand unless you know
>>>>>> something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> about computer programming. So many people just think about freeware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have also noticed that many people tend to get scared of the
>>>>>>> manuals
>>>>>>> since they expect they have to learn something extremely complicated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a need for something like a video introduction into FM that
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> easily translated into various languages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Tomi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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