[FM Discuss] a crazy moment pondering a manifesto

adam at flossmanuals.net adam at flossmanuals.net
Wed Jun 27 03:24:16 PDT 2012


> Hello,
>
> I would be interested to see the actual stats of the content production.
> Some nice graphs like github produces them for code. That would give
> benchmark to the manifesto claim.

what sort of stats were you thinking? having worked for the stats
obsessive radio for many years and seen how it can lead content (for the
worst) it seems like a minefield, but maybe you were thinking of stats
like how many books we have, how many people? some big numbers but without
breakdowns linking specific content to specific books? just trying to get
a handle on what you propose...

>
> Generally, i believe manifestos say more about their authors than the
> world they live in. Or in other words: i prefer manifestos which say that
> they talk about a utopian future and not describe the status quo.

the weird thing is what we do in fm is both. it is the status quo for us,
but it is a utopia for others that have not experienced it. as McLuhan
said "the future is now"...I think Fm is now and the future.

is there a way we could express this?

>
> Something like "we aim to create the best environment for..."
>
> Finally, i believe authorship is part of collaboration. Self expression
> and actualization are human needs and should be appreciated. Even when
> working in a team.


ah yes...nice. how can we express the value of the individual in a  group
process...

* we value the individual in the group process?

would that work?

adam

>
> On 26.06.2012, at 23:49, James Simmons <nicestep at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Adam,
>>
>> You make me feel guilty for writing three books using FM that violated
>> pretty much everything in your manifesto.
>>
>> At least the translation of "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!" was done
>> by a team, although it lasted longer than a sprint.
>>
>> When I published my books on CreateSpace I designed new covers that had
>> my name on the front and an author photo and bio on the back.  The Lulu
>> versions had neither.
>>
>> I had a co-worker who worked on the CiviCRM manual.  They took a group
>> photo of the team in Lake Tahoe that worked on the book.  That's in the
>> book.
>>
>> I guess my point is there needs to be something in the manifesto about
>> taking credit for your work.
>>
>> James Simmons
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM, adam <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:
>> ok..so i have too much time in my hands...i was pondering the things we
>> do in FLOSS Manuals in abstract and thought we could almost come up kind
>> of short (shudder) manifesto for the kinds of methods we use for book
>> production. I was trying to capture something that could encompass all
>> the activities from Book Sprints to rolling manual development to remote
>> update sprints etc etc etc
>>
>> so...here it is:
>>
>> Iterative Book Development (IDB) Manifesto:
>> We value:
>> 0. Collaborative content production over single authorship
>> 1. Collaboration and facilitation over ‘editors’ and ‘authors’
>> 2. Engaged discourse over isolation
>> 3. Completed chunks over incomplete volumes
>> 4. Here and now production over sometime soon production
>>
>> ... i generally laugh at anyone who thinks they have the moral authority
>> to create a manifesto so please feel free to laugh at me. I do however
>> think that this captures something that we have developed in
>> FM...thoughts?
>>
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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