[FM Discuss] question about pdf generation on FLOSS Manuals / Booktype
mick at flossmanuals.net
mick at flossmanuals.net
Tue Jan 30 00:51:34 PST 2018
Shall we put these issues here.
https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues
Let me know if you can't add them for some reason.
Mick
On 30/01/18 08:44, mick at flossmanuals.net wrote:
>
> Hi there Maren,
>
> Let's get a wish list together and then see what we can solve as a
> community and then as a collective come up with a check list to see
> what can be solved.
>
> I was hoping Martin might be up for helping and he is so that's very cool!
>
> Source fabric are very generously sponsoring FLOSS Manual's book type
> 1.6 installation and their focus is on Booktype 2.0 at the moment. So
> I guess the support for 1.6 will be limited but I'm sure we can work
> around that till we upgrade.
>
> Thanks
> Mick
>
>
> On 29/01/18 22:40, Maren Hachmann wrote:
>> Yes, those settings are specific to the Inkscape manual (color scheme,
>> fonts), and Jabier needed to leave and do other things at the time, so
>> it's still unfinished, unfortunately.
>>
>> There's a lot on the wishlist[1] for the Inkscape beginners' guide, but
>> layouting/styling appears to be rather tedious (and partly impossible).
>> And the booktype people only ever answer you, when we talk together.
>> Perhaps my emails didn't get through to them? It happened twice...
>>
>> Maren
>>
>> [1] Start chapter with heading, then have a box with a larger tool icon,
>> with keyboard shortcuts and short description, if it describes a tool.
>> Have a specific class for inline tool icons. Have info boxes. Have a
>> style for keyboard shortcuts that makes them look like actual keys.
>> Don't produce so many empty pages. Have a proper caption for images. It
>> also seems that links don't carry over into the pdf (for print, I guess
>> that's alright, lol... but couldn't it automagically create footnotes
>> from them, in that case?), etc.
>>
>>
>> Am 29.01.2018 um 21:13 schrieb Mick Chesterman:
>>> Thanks Maren,
>>>
>>> I've tried those settings with the Audacity manual and it looks better but still needs some tweaks.
>>> http://objavi.booktype.pro/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.29-21.10.44.pdf
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net> on behalf of Maren Hachmann <maren at goos-habermann.de>
>>> Sent: 29 January 2018 13:19
>>> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] question about pdf generation on FLOSS Manuals / Booktype
>>>
>>> Here's some additional info that one of our devs has found out while
>>> trying things out:
>>> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/blob/master/beginners_guide/README.md
>>> (he's not a native English speaker)
>>>
>>> Maren
>>>
>>> Am 29.01.2018 um 11:13 schrieb M R:
>>>> Mick:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've had a quick look at your final link -- can you tell me where you
>>>> found the stuff about pdf formatting? I'm not finding it. "Editing a
>>>> Chapter" is pretty generic. And the "Tips and Tricks" section seems to
>>>> all be about CSS stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While I don't love the widows and orphans, I could live with those if we
>>>> could just get a TOC in there. But I don't know how to do it other than
>>>> creating an actual chapter for the TOC, which would look totally strange
>>>> in any other format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net> on behalf of
>>>> Mick Chesterman <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2018 1:25 AM
>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] question about pdf generation on FLOSS
>>>> Manuals / Booktype
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards your question below about pdf generation. I have to admit I know
>>>> next to nothing about this.
>>>>
>>>> My focus has always been on the web side of things.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be good if people could share any info they have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are using booktype 1.6. So I did a bit of research.
>>>>
>>>> There is some info on some of those aspects in the docs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CSS formatting
>>>>
>>>> http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/adding-css/
>>>>
>>>> /chapter: Adding-Css / Booktype 1.6 for Authors and Publishers
>>>> <http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/adding-css/>
>>>> sourcefabric.booktype.pro
>>>> Everything you ever wanted to know about Sourcefabric software is here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CSS tricks
>>>>
>>>> http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/some-tricks/
>>>>
>>>> /chapter: Some-Tricks / Booktype 1.6 for Authors and Publishers
>>>> <http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/some-tricks/>
>>>> sourcefabric.booktype.pro
>>>> Everything you ever wanted to know about Sourcefabric software is here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A tip to insert Page breaks as a hack to avoid orphans and widows in pdfs
>>>>
>>>> http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/editing-a-chapter/
>>>>
>>>> /chapter: Editing-A-Chapter / Booktype 1.6 for Authors and Publishers
>>>> <http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-16-for-authors-and-publishers/editing-a-chapter/>
>>>> sourcefabric.booktype.pro
>>>> Everything you ever wanted to know about Sourcefabric software is here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *M R
>>>> *Sent:* 27 January 2018 20:04
>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mick (et al):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All great stuff on your changes and review. Thanks for addressing the
>>>> table issue in the Menu chapter. And the image max-width: I didn't
>>>> even know that could be adjusted. I had just ended up making all of my
>>>> screenshots smaller so as to get around that distortion issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the ePub book proof looks really good. The pdf one doesn't seem
>>>> to handle page-breaks very gracefully (among other issues), but it
>>>> doesn't appear that there's a way to handle that at the level of the
>>>> content-edit platform itself. Nor does the pdf seem to auto-generate a
>>>> table of contents, which is a more significant failing -- but again
>>>> these must be issues common to all Floss manuals in pdf. Or maybe there
>>>> are settings you can fiddle with specific to generating PDFs on the
>>>> platform.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the "Recording" chapter, yes I do still see my bracketed
>>>> comment/query about whether that Mac-specific config stuff was still
>>>> applicable to 2.x. Certainly we should remove the comment. But it's
>>>> still an open question to me whether we should remove any or all of the
>>>> original Mac config info that follows too--and I think that can only be
>>>> settled via experimentation with a Mac. So Rosalind or another Mac
>>>> person will have to address that. I think we decided in general that we
>>>> would *not* preserve in this manual any info pertaining only to 1.x
>>>> versions of Audacity, at least unless it was clearly flagged as such.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mick, as to your final suggestion about moving the chapters around, I
>>>> certainly see the logic insofar as the Tutorial chapters are much more
>>>> 'fun'/interesting to read (as they were to re-write). However, there is
>>>> probably a more compelling logic to walking through the UI
>>>> systematically before diving into those tutorials, since at many points
>>>> they embed the assumption that you know where to find a given menu item,
>>>> or they only use the quickest shorthand (like "Go to Edit > Tracks >
>>>> Split Track") rather than giving you screenshots or any more detailed
>>>> guidance on the UI. Further, at least in the ePub format where the menu
>>>> is readily accessible, it's easy enough for the reader to skip straight
>>>> to the tutorials if they choose to. That is another reason, though, why
>>>> having a TOC (and ideally a clickable one) is pretty vital for the PDF
>>>> version too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, thanks again for your work on this. If Rosalind can take a look
>>>> at that Mac config stuff in the Record chapter, and if you know any
>>>> magic you can do with the PDF-generate settings, then I think we're good
>>>> to go for this iteration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of
>>>> mick at flossmanuals.net <mailto:mick at flossmanuals.net>
>>>> <mick at flossmanuals.net <mailto:mick at flossmanuals.net>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:09 AM
>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've had a chance to review this, Great work!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just one thing I think needs to be looked at
>>>>
>>>> * There's still a comment visible on Mac recording questions - it does
>>>> seem like this might need some simplification here
>>>>
>>>> Here are some thing I did.
>>>>
>>>> * I've added 10px padding to table which I think helps.
>>>> * I've removed a legacy issue about linux recording issues.
>>>> * I've increased the max-width of image display to 800px ,
>>>> height:Auto to help with some image distortions. This seems to be
>>>> fine on screen but doesn't take for the pdf,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've generated pdfs and epubs here for testing too.
>>>>
>>>> http://objavi.booktype.pro:80/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-11.59.46.epub
>>>> <http://objavi.booktype.pro/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-11.59.46.epub>
>>>>
>>>> http://objavi.booktype.pro:80/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-12.00.12.pdf
>>>> <http://objavi.booktype.pro/data/books/audacity-en-2018.01.27-12.00.12.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More general feedback is that the chapter under tutorials look great.
>>>> Good work.
>>>>
>>>> I would be tempted to move them right to the front of the book as a more
>>>> task focused start, and to move installation and the explanations of the
>>>> file menus in the appendix.
>>>>
>>>> That way the reader can get started trying things out right away. That's
>>>> just a suggestion tho.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26/01/18 00:14, M R wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Martin:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It does need proofreading, as its been almost completely rewritten
>>>> as part of the update to 2.x. Mick has offered to do that this
>>>> weekend, but a pair of fresh eyes probably wouldn't hurt either--as
>>>> long as Katou is reasonably expeditious, since we are trying to wrap
>>>> this up and get it republished so it can actually get to users.
>>>> Localization is another and certainly important issue: my only
>>>> working language (at the level of something like this manual) is
>>>> English, and if someone wanted to translate the revision into other
>>>> languages that would be a good thing, but also I think a separate
>>>> project. Finally, I don't know if Katou has prior expertise with
>>>> Audacity, but if so, you could mention that this manual is far from
>>>> comprehensive, esp in the 'How to' or tutorial chapters, and there's
>>>> always opportunity to add in more chapters with additional
>>>> functionality. Which would, again, though, be something we'd want
>>>> to address in a further iteration of the manual, not the imminent one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net> on behalf of Martin
>>>> Kean <Martin.Kean at op.ac.nz> <mailto:Martin.Kean at op.ac.nz>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2018 4:01 PM
>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maren and Matt,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've just added Katou as a user, who is interested in proofreading
>>>> and localisation, along with writing and editing. Does the Audacity
>>>> manual need proofreading?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Username: katou
>>>>
>>>> Email: katou at live.it <mailto:katou at live.it>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Martin
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net> on behalf of Maren
>>>> Hachmann <maren at goos-habermann.de> <mailto:maren at goos-habermann.de>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 26 January 2018 3:35:58 a.m.
>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, same URL - maybe something with your browser cache not refreshing?
>>>>
>>>> Maren
>>>>
>>>> Am 25.01.2018 um 09:04 schrieb Mick Chesterman:
>>>> > Great but strange.
>>>> >
>>>> > What URL are you testing
>>>> > I was testing here where it is still 12px for me on Firefox
>>>> > http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/test-chapter-for-trying-out-styling/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /chapter: Test-Chapter-For-Trying-Out-Styling / Start with ...
>>>> <http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/test-chapter-for-trying-out-styling/>
>>>>
>>>> write.flossmanuals.net
>>>>
>>>> Test Chapter (for trying out styling) This chapter is meant for
>>>> trying out how to best style the book. This is a keyboard shortcut:
>>>> Ctrl + A. This is a special note ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> > Mick
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] On Behalf Of
>>>> >> Maren Hachmann
>>>> >> Sent: 24 January 2018 21:34
>>>> >> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don't see any problems, it seemst to have worked just fine, see screenshot.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank you very much, Mick!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Maren
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Am 24.01.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Rosalind Lord:
>>>> >>> Mick, would you like me to help with this? I have lots of experience
>>>> >>> coding HTML and CSS.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> - Rosalind
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Mick Chesterman
>>>> >> <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>
>>>> >>>> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Hi there,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I've added an override but it doesn't seem to have taken.
>>>> >>>> Can you start a ticket here and let's try to solve this together.
>>>> >>>> https://gitlab.com/flossmanuals/fm_booktype/issues
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thanks
>>>> >>>> Mick
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>>>> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] On
>>>> >>>>> Behalf Of Maren Hachmann
>>>> >>>>> Sent: 23 January 2018 23:16
>>>> >>>>> To: discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Piggy-backing, as I've got a CSS change request, too:
>>>> >>>>> The font size for ordered / unordered lists is too small by default
>>>> >>>>> (12px instead of 13px for all other text in a manual), because the
>>>> >>>>> lists are not wrapped in paragraphs (which have a font size of 13),
>>>> >>>>> and inherit the body font size.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> As this doesn't only affect the Inkscape guide, but all books on the
>>>> >>>>> site, and all lists in them, it needs to be fixed on server level.
>>>> >>>>> Fixing each list individually, and thus having inline styles that
>>>> >>>>> might mess up exporting would be possible, but tedious and ugly.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Could you please set the font size for lists inside the content area
>>>> >>>>> to 13, too?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> CSS to modify, starting line 1574 in booki.css:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> #full-view-content p, #bookcontent p, #bookcontent ol, #bookcontent
>>>> >>>>> ul {
>>>> >>>>> font-size: 13px;
>>>> >>>>> line-height: 140%;
>>>> >>>>> margin: 1em 0;
>>>> >>>>> padding: 0;
>>>> >>>>> }
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>>> >>>>> Maren
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Am 23.01.2018 um 04:31 schrieb M R:
>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Mick -- the weekend would be fine with me. Maybe best to
>>>> >>>>>> have someone who has some familiarity with the old book, and in
>>>> >>>>>> general with the folkways of FM.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I may have mentioned this before, but there's one specific
>>>> >>>>>> formatting issue I'd like you (or whoever reviews) to consider,
>>>> >>>>>> aside from whatever else comes up. In the Menu Bar chapter there
>>>> >>>>>> is extensive use of tables to hold the menu information. As I did
>>>> >>>>>> wherever possible, here I preserved the formatting from the
>>>> >>>>>> original book, where these tables were set to zero cell padding and
>>>> >>>>>> no border. This worked well enough in the original version, when
>>>> >>>>>> each cell entry was at most a single sentence in length, and it
>>>> >>>>>> resulted in a nice clean design. However, Audacity 2.x's much more
>>>> >>>>>> extensive use of submenus forced me to make considerably longer
>>>> >>>>>> entries in some of those table cells, and I'm not certain how
>>>> >>>>>> readable the end result is for some tables. I think the solution
>>>> >>>>>> would be pretty straightforward: either adding a bit of cell padding to
>>>> >> each table, or adding a narrow border.
>>>> >>>>>> But I didn't want to go either way without consultation. I don't
>>>> >>>>>> think this issue afflicts any chapter beyond the Menu Bar ch.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Matt
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >>>>>> -----
>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of Mick
>>>> >>>>>> Chesterman <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>
>>>> >> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>>
>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 1:00 AM
>>>> >>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> HI there,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> This sounds good. Can anyone step forward to have a look over the
>>>> >>>>>> Audacity manual before we do a pdf and epub print for the front page?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I can do it at the weekend if not.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Thanks
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Mick
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Mick Chesterman
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Educational Innovation and Enterprise Tutor &
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> EdLab Project Developer
>>>> >>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> *From:*Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net] *On
>>>> >>>>>> Behalf Of *M R
>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* 18 January 2018 21:05
>>>> >>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Mick:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> It looks to me like other folks have finished adding in their
>>>> >>>>>> pieces to the non-Windows sections of the manual re-write, so
>>>> >>>>>> whenever you get a chance at some quality control (just because I
>>>> >>>>>> assume that someone needs to, who hasn't been a
>>>> >>>>>> writer-contributor), then we can wrap this up and get it published,
>>>> >>>>>> to start helping whoever out there might actually want to use it.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Actually, I suppose someone else could handle the review too -- not
>>>> >>>>>> sure what the protocol is here. But I just wanted to make sure
>>>> >>>>>> this stays in the queue as a near-term task. I assume we all have
>>>> >>>>>> day jobs 😊(I'm a college professor so I was just on holiday break
>>>> >>>>>> -- that's why I could find 50 hrs or so to do the bulk of the rewrite).
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> thanks,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Matt
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >>>>>> -----
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of Mick
>>>> >>>>>> Chesterman <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>
>>>> >> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>
>>>> >>>>> <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>>
>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2018 4:12 AM
>>>> >>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> To exit chapter titles you just double click into the title on the
>>>> >>>>>> chapter list screen.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> *From:*Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.flossmanuals.net>> on behalf of M R
>>>> >>>>>> <matrobnew at hotmail.com <mailto:matrobnew at hotmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:matrobnew at hotmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:matrobnew at hotmail.com>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:*12 January 2018 10:55
>>>> >>>>>> *To:* discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net>
>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FM Discuss] next steps on Audacity book
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I actually wanted to edit some of the other chapter TITLES a bit,
>>>> >>>>>> but couldn't figure out a way to do that. No big deal though, as
>>>> >>>>>> the current titles will serve. I did drag one entire chapter out
>>>> >>>>>> of the to-be-published structure and down to the bottom: that was
>>>> >>>>>> "MP3 INSTALLATION ON WINDOWS" bc it's no longer necessary to
>>>> >>>>>> install the
>>>> >>>>> LAME
>>>> >>>>>> MP3 codec separately. Just one of many ways that Audacity has
>>>> >>>>>> gotten more user-friendly over the years.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
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