[FM Discuss] FLOSS manuals archive sites - and a volunteer request

[Mick Fuzz]

Hi there,

The archive site at archive.flossmanuals.net - is a snap shot of
flossmanuals about 7 or 8 years ago or so.

So it's not straightforward to delete things from it. And well the idea
isn't really to keep that archive up to date as it's an archive :) I
don't think it's a good idea to subtract from an archive. But yes better
signposting that it is an archive and where to find up to date things
would be really useful. I'm keen to work on that.

And for the other pure data manual -
https://en.flossmanuals.net/pd-extended/_full/
<https://en.flossmanuals.net/pd-extended/_full/>
It sounds like it's not up to date - but is update-able at least.
Someone did do some work last year to recreate some of the code
examples. It's there in case anyone does want to take it on.

nice one
Mick

On 29/11/2021 10:31, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>
> i would say delete all duplicate copies, it just makes it confusing :)
>
> On 28.11.21 17:18, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> Em qui., 25 de nov. de 2021 às 06:25, Mick Chesterman
>> <M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk <mailto:M.Chesterman at mmu.ac.uk>> escreveu:
>>
>>     Hi there,
>>
>>      
>>
>>     I’ve been working with Alexandre Porres from the pure data
>>     community to correct older versions of our pure data manual and
>>     the current one.
>>
>>
>> Hi folks, that's me!
>>
>> We have been updating the "current" document here
>> => https://en.flossmanuals.net/pd-extended/_full/
>> <https://en.flossmanuals.net/pd-extended/_full/>
>>
>> One thing that was confusing is that this was referred to as a "Pure
>> Data" manual, but was in fact a "Pd-extended" manual. We changed the
>> title and I'm editing the first introduction page. What needs to be
>> updated there is the fact that Pd-extended is long gone and
>> abandoned, and it doesn't run in newer versions of macOS, for
>> instance. Warnings have been made that the book is being kept as a
>> historical document, and that it can still be useful if you adapt the
>> examples to the current version of the official and main distribution
>> of Pure Data (aka Pd Vanilla) and install the externals used on the book.
>>
>> By the way, there are currently no plans whatsoever to start a new
>> and updated manual on FLOSS Manuals, or elsewhere. Anything like that
>> is pretty unlikely to happen. Our efforts are just in improving the
>> official manual that comes with Pd Vanilla (now currently referred to
>> in the edits I made to the "current" FLOSS manual).   
>>
>> ------
>>
>> Now, we also have this archived version of the same book. And I just
>> don't understand why it exists. It was actually the exact same book,
>> with the same contents as the "new one". We now have minor edits to
>> explain the current scenario and avoid confusions, but keeping the
>> archived version still adds noise and confusion.
>>
>> As for possible solutions, we can make the same changes back into the
>> archived one. But why keep both identical books around? One archived,
>> and another not?
>>
>> It just makes sense to me to delete the old archived one and just
>> keep this new one around, which also the same document.
>>
>> What do you people think?
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your work keeping up FLOSS Manuals.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
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